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 Post subject: APC - Is it really Amphibious?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:10 pm 
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Decided to dust some of my G.I. Joe vehicles today, and in between the coughing and sneezing fits, I found myself vaguely wondering if the APC really does float. I'll admit I've never thought to put the thing into a bathtub or swimming pool or whatever, despite having once since 1983. Anybody...?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:35 pm 
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I wanna say it floats better than the first Water Moccasin. As I recall, the axle housings are molded to the lower hull, so the metal axles go through from one wheel to the other, but eventually enough water will get into the area between the lower hull and the seats through the holes for the bumper/handle. Then down she goes. My friend, who had the APC, and I tried it once in the bath tub and it seemed to stay afloat for a good while.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:39 pm 
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My friend, who had the APC, and I tried it once in the bath tub and it seemed to stay afloat for a good while.


Why were you and your friend in the bath tub? :shifty:


Also my original Moccasin floated just fine, same with the SHARC. Just couldn't splash it around too much or water would get in the seams and sink 'em.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:23 pm 
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I don't ever remembering the APC ever sinking. I had one of my spare APCs in a pool for about a week without it sinking. You could only sink it, if you started putting water into the troop hold. Also it would take some pretty rough waves too without sinking. If I remember correctly from taking one apart the part the figures would stand and sit on had pockets that would trap air, so it didn't matter about the water coming in from the axle holes. I could be wrong though, as it has been a while that I had one apart.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:14 am 
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Somebody should do a scientific study about what the average bathtub splash or swimming pool cannonball dive amounts to wave-wise relative to the scale of G.I. Joe... Probably be the equivalent of more than enough to swamp them in real life.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:20 am 
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Somebody should do a scientific study about what the average bathtub splash or swimming pool cannonball dive amounts to wave-wise relative to the scale of G.I. Joe... Probably be the equivalent of more than enough to swamp them in real life.


So, one good Wave Crusher? :whistling:

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From My experience, the holes in the axle area let water into the lower hull, but if you had figures loaded only in the 2 rows of seats...NO MORE THAN THAT...it would float. The water would be right up to the body line where the cab splits.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:11 am 
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I had similar results back in the day, I never loaded it fully, though.

I remember the APC weighing a lot more when I took it out of the water.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:22 pm 
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Suburbanator wrote:
I wanna say it floats better than the first Water Moccasin. As I recall, the axle housings are molded to the lower hull, so the metal axles go through from one wheel to the other, but eventually enough water will get into the area between the lower hull and the seats through the holes for the bumper/handle. Then down she goes. My friend, who had the APC, and I tried it once in the bath tub and it seemed to stay afloat for a good while.


The APC is designed to flood in these areas. What keeps it afloat is the passenger "tub" Allowing the lower section to fill with water through the axle, and handle holes balasts the APC so it floats right at the water line. If you look on the bottom, all the "high points" what would be low points on the inside (places water would collect) have drain holes.

It's a very well though out toy.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:34 pm 
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nova wrote:
Suburbanator wrote:
I wanna say it floats better than the first Water Moccasin. As I recall, the axle housings are molded to the lower hull, so the metal axles go through from one wheel to the other, but eventually enough water will get into the area between the lower hull and the seats through the holes for the bumper/handle. Then down she goes. My friend, who had the APC, and I tried it once in the bath tub and it seemed to stay afloat for a good while.


The APC is designed to flood in these areas. What keeps it afloat is the passenger "tub" Allowing the lower section to fill with water through the axle, and handle holes balasts the APC so it floats right at the water line. If you look on the bottom, all the "high points" what would be low points on the inside (places water would collect) have drain holes.

It's a very well though out toy.


I agree with Nova on this. I used the APC numberous times in the tub or pool as a kid and the water always got up to the cabin line, but never flooded. I remember it sucked waiting for all the water to drain out, but it worked as advertised. I remember wanting to play with it in the water after I read issue #17 or #18 where it was featured rolling up on a beach.

And in case anyone is wondering, the Warthog can float, as well. And contrary to the cartoon, the Sky-Hawk does not float or skim the water at all :shifty:

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