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I personally prefer the 1:18 scale which is easier to calculate than figuring what 3 3/4" would be (math make brain hurt) and the 25th figures seem to be true(ish) 1:18 scale as opposed to their ARAH ancestors which were 3 3/4".

Mysterious Stranger wrote:

Not to be Debbie Downer here, but why do we really need to do math for our hobby? Buy what looks good and right, who cares about math? Human beings almost *never* come in exactly at 6" tall, so having figs that are different heights is very much a good thing from what I can see. I prefer that the RAH figs look differently-heighted next to the 25As.

This is something that I've been thinking a lot about lately with all the news of more Joe-scale figure lines coming out. What is the proper Joe-scale? 3 3/4" or 1:18? Using your chart the 1:18 title works. But looking back at the ARAH figures which were 3 3/4" that doesn't jibe with the 1:18 we often use to describe lil Joes.

I personally prefer the 1:18 scale which is easier to calculate than figuring what 3 3/4" would be (math make brain hurt) and the 25th figures seem to be true(ish) 1:18 scale as opposed to their ARAH ancestors which were 3 3/4". And that's just fine with me. They work better with other 1:18 scale lines such as the new style Microman (for the most part) and other 1:18 figures that are coming out.

Now the JAKKs wrestling figures are 3 3/4" scale which makes them significantly shorter than 25th Joes. So when looking at the compatibility of say the new DC line and upcoming Marvel figures we need to remember they may be 3 3/4" and not as compatible with 25th Joes as we'd like.

Mysterious Stranger wrote:

Math isn't too hard on that.

Say that the 3 3/4" figure represents a person 6' tall. 72" in 6' so devide 72 by 3.75 rounded out gives you 19. That means that for every inch in the 3 3/4" world you'd have 19 inches in the real world that you can then figure into feet.

So a 4" figure in the 3 3/4 world would work out to 4x19 which would be 76" or 6' 4"

An 8" Sigma Six figure would be 8x19 which works out to 152" or 12' 8".

Author:	Caravankidd [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Playing with scale
With topics about what's going to 1:18 scale, which super heroes will show up when in 1:18, how tall are Halo Spartans, what makes a good monster, I got thinking about how to translate over the Joe scale to see if things really do fit into the 25th scale. (okay and I was just really bored enough at work to play with numbers) If a 4" GI Joe figure represents a character who is 6' tall then you can break it down that each 1" of toy represents 1 1/2' or 18". With those numbers in hand I broke it down to various toy heights to see how other toys would stack up in height if translated over into real world height from the 25th scale. ___________25th scale translation Toy________________________________real Height_____________________________world 1”__________________________________1’ 6” 2”__________________________________3’ 2 ½”________________________________3’ 9” 3”__________________________________4’ 6” 3 ¾”________________________________5’ 7 ½” 4”__________________________________6’ 5”__________________________________7’ 6” 6”__________________________________9’ 7”__________________________________10’ 6” 8”__________________________________12’ 9”__________________________________13’ 6” 10”_________________________________15’ 12”_________________________________18’ 14”_________________________________21’ Feel free to copy, paste or whatever as sort of a handy chart for when you need a 9' monster and don't want to do all the math or when you are wondering if a figure is really too tall or too short to fit in with the 25th figures. I've also used it for the fun of figuring I'm 99' tall compared to the Joe figures but a scale figure of me would be under 3 3/4".

Author:	Mysterious Stranger [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Playing with scale
This is something that I've been thinking a lot about lately with all the news of more Joe-scale figure lines coming out. What is the proper Joe-scale? 3 3/4" or 1:18? Using your chart the 1:18 title works. But looking back at the ARAH figures which were 3 3/4" that doesn't jibe with the 1:18 we often use to describe lil Joes. I personally prefer the 1:18 scale which is easier to calculate than figuring what 3 3/4" would be (math make brain hurt) and the 25th figures seem to be true(ish) 1:18 scale as opposed to their ARAH ancestors which were 3 3/4". And that's just fine with me. They work better with other 1:18 scale lines such as the new style Microman (for the most part) and other 1:18 figures that are coming out. Now the JAKKs wrestling figures are 3 3/4" scale which makes them significantly shorter than 25th Joes. So when looking at the compatibility of say the new DC line and upcoming Marvel figures we need to remember they may be 3 3/4" and not as compatible with 25th Joes as we'd like.

Author:	roguetiger [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Playing with scale
for a good hobby calculator try http://www.printmini.com/calc.shtml

Author:	AdrienVeidt [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:27 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Playing with scale
Mysterious Stranger wrote: I personally prefer the 1:18 scale which is easier to calculate than figuring what 3 3/4" would be (math make brain hurt) and the 25th figures seem to be true(ish) 1:18 scale as opposed to their ARAH ancestors which were 3 3/4". Not to be Debbie Downer here, but why do we really need to do math for our hobby? Buy what looks good and right, who cares about math? Human beings almost never come in exactly at 6" tall, so having figs that are different heights is very much a good thing from what I can see. I prefer that the RAH figs look differently-heighted next to the 25As.

Author:	Caravankidd [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Playing with scale
AdrienVeidt wrote: Mysterious Stranger wrote: I personally prefer the 1:18 scale which is easier to calculate than figuring what 3 3/4" would be (math make brain hurt) and the 25th figures seem to be true(ish) 1:18 scale as opposed to their ARAH ancestors which were 3 3/4". Not to be Debbie Downer here, but why do we really need to do math for our hobby? Buy what looks good and right, who cares about math? Human beings almost never come in exactly at 6" tall, so having figs that are different heights is very much a good thing from what I can see. I prefer that the RAH figs look differently-heighted next to the 25As. More for the courousity we sometimes have about how tall something would be than anything else. I'm sure we've all wondered at some point just how tall the Sigma Six BAT is next to the 25th Joes or if the Real American Heroes figures are really that abnormally short now, or with Superheroes going 1:18th what would make for a good Giganta. More a gee that BAT is 12' tall rather than some new set of rules to live by. In the end it's like you said we are going to use what our eye tells us looks right but the chart helps with that part or our brain that wonders just what that height would translate to in the real world.

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Author:	Caravankidd [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Playing with scale
Mysterious Stranger wrote: This is something that I've been thinking a lot about lately with all the news of more Joe-scale figure lines coming out. What is the proper Joe-scale? 3 3/4" or 1:18? Using your chart the 1:18 title works. But looking back at the ARAH figures which were 3 3/4" that doesn't jibe with the 1:18 we often use to describe lil Joes. I personally prefer the 1:18 scale which is easier to calculate than figuring what 3 3/4" would be (math make brain hurt) and the 25th figures seem to be true(ish) 1:18 scale as opposed to their ARAH ancestors which were 3 3/4". And that's just fine with me. They work better with other 1:18 scale lines such as the new style Microman (for the most part) and other 1:18 figures that are coming out. Now the JAKKs wrestling figures are 3 3/4" scale which makes them significantly shorter than 25th Joes. So when looking at the compatibility of say the new DC line and upcoming Marvel figures we need to remember they may be 3 3/4" and not as compatible with 25th Joes as we'd like. Math isn't too hard on that. Say that the 3 3/4" figure represents a person 6' tall. 72" in 6' so devide 72 by 3.75 rounded out gives you 19. That means that for every inch in the 3 3/4" world you'd have 19 inches in the real world that you can then figure into feet. So a 4" figure in the 3 3/4 world would work out to 4x19 which would be 76" or 6' 4" An 8" Sigma Six figure would be 8x19 which works out to 152" or 12' 8".

Author:	gijoey [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Playing with scale
Caravankidd wrote: Mysterious Stranger wrote: This is something that I've been thinking a lot about lately with all the news of more Joe-scale figure lines coming out. What is the proper Joe-scale? 3 3/4" or 1:18? Using your chart the 1:18 title works. But looking back at the ARAH figures which were 3 3/4" that doesn't jibe with the 1:18 we often use to describe lil Joes. I personally prefer the 1:18 scale which is easier to calculate than figuring what 3 3/4" would be (math make brain hurt) and the 25th figures seem to be true(ish) 1:18 scale as opposed to their ARAH ancestors which were 3 3/4". And that's just fine with me. They work better with other 1:18 scale lines such as the new style Microman (for the most part) and other 1:18 figures that are coming out. Now the JAKKs wrestling figures are 3 3/4" scale which makes them significantly shorter than 25th Joes. So when looking at the compatibility of say the new DC line and upcoming Marvel figures we need to remember they may be 3 3/4" and not as compatible with 25th Joes as we'd like. Math isn't too hard on that. Say that the 3 3/4" figure represents a person 6' tall. 72" in 6' so devide 72 by 3.75 rounded out gives you 19. That means that for every inch in the 3 3/4" world you'd have 19 inches in the real world that you can then figure into feet. So a 4" figure in the 3 3/4 world would work out to 4x19 which would be 76" or 6' 4" An 8" Sigma Six figure would be 8x19 which works out to 152" or 12' 8". I like this scale better than your first chart it jives better with my verse. I have been wrestling with a size chart off and on for years. Trying to gauge how tall is to tall to fit within my verse. Some figures get a pass on being to tall because their monsters and such, but others like the new Spartans are a little to tall even if their supposed to be 10ft. So will help in figuring out how much to cut them down. Thanks

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