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Author: | vidmouse [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
Wanted to see how far I can push this cardboard n- glue thing. Took some cardboard, popsickle sticks, and hot glue and started on my Cardboard Hiss Tank build. Not really using plans, just horsing around while watching evening TV. Hopefully will be able to do updates as I go along... |
Author: | TR101AL [ Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
That would be perfect for dio-shot and scenes that would require an interior shot. I reminds me of the shot of the Hiss from the comic #17 (if I'm right) where he's fighting Hawk? on top of it. |
Author: | vidmouse [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
I looked up the comic -- issue #16. The cool thing was, the HISSes in that comic had a different, two-seater cockpit and canopy on them, pretty cool. If this cardboard HISS turns out well, I might try for a larger model that is a two-seater. |
Author: | drbindy [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
I'm not sure how to say it without sounding like a jerk, because I really like a lot of your stuff, VM. But this cardboard kick seems like wasted effort to me. Obviously you have a good eye for the parts and the shapes. And you also have a steady hand to make the proper cuts and angles... so why not use those skills in a medium that can produce an actual useable, fun toy by working in styrene or something similar? I'll be happy to eat my hat if the final products end up looking like they weren't made of cardboard. But as it stands, they look like they are made for paper-doll Joes, not the real deal. If you have the time to invest in going this far with it, I can only think of how cool this might be in plastic form. |
Author: | Soulgem [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
This is hilarious. Keep it up! |
Author: | vidmouse [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
drbindy wrote: I'm not sure how to say it without sounding like a jerk, because I really like a lot of your stuff, VM. But this cardboard kick seems like wasted effort to me. Obviously you have a good eye for the parts and the shapes. And you also have a steady hand to make the proper cuts and angles... so why not use those skills in a medium that can produce an actual useable, fun toy by working in styrene or something similar? I'll be happy to eat my hat if the final products end up looking like they weren't made of cardboard. But as it stands, they look like they are made for paper-doll Joes, not the real deal. If you have the time to invest in going this far with it, I can only think of how cool this might be in plastic form. No worries, it's all good, you didn't sound like a jerk. We'll see how this comes out in cardboard first. I get the feeling that once things get painted it'll be a ton better. |
Author: | drbindy [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
vidmouse wrote: drbindy wrote: I'm not sure how to say it without sounding like a jerk, because I really like a lot of your stuff, VM. But this cardboard kick seems like wasted effort to me. Obviously you have a good eye for the parts and the shapes. And you also have a steady hand to make the proper cuts and angles... so why not use those skills in a medium that can produce an actual useable, fun toy by working in styrene or something similar? I'll be happy to eat my hat if the final products end up looking like they weren't made of cardboard. But as it stands, they look like they are made for paper-doll Joes, not the real deal. If you have the time to invest in going this far with it, I can only think of how cool this might be in plastic form. No worries, it's all good, you didn't sound like a jerk. We'll see how this comes out in cardboard first. I get the feeling that once things get painted it'll be a ton better. ok, cool. In addition to a lot of the textured paper techniques that people suggested in the other thread, I wonder is there is anything else that can be done to improve upon durability as you go? Not literally paper mache, but some kind of varnish maybe to harden it once you have it shaped right? |
Author: | lordnestor [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
Wow Vid, I love what your doing with cardboard. Its great to see what could be done cheaply for dio pieces and background shots. I think playset parts can also work if done right. |
Author: | vidmouse [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
Ok, did more work tonight: I deviated from the shape of the original HISS somewhat, but for some good reasons: I added a backdoor that swings down ala' Sigma 6: And a top that can swing up to allow for better play: The gunner is now seated at a stationary turret but will have full 3-d controls: The canopy reverse-opens... it was easier this way, and I think it helps to set my design apart: There's an extra pad of space inside the canopy for controls A last shot; enough work for tonight! |
Author: | Spin Doctor [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
Your modifications o the design are ingenious and amplify the HiSS's play value about ten-fold. I agree to some extent that, once you've perfected the design, you should transition to the styrene medium. You could make a mint. |
Author: | vidmouse [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
Y'know, I've looked occasionally for styrene at Michaels and Jo Anns and have not had much luck. Haven't tried Hobby Lobby yet but where do you guys get sheet styrene? One thing I'd be concerned with is that some of the "hinges" I used rely on the flexibility of cardboard to bend. Don't know if styrene could be as useful there, but maybe I could combine the two and have styrene sheets with a cardboard (or other) hinge. I did tape and paint work last night. Tonight (hopefully) is finish-paint and addition of decals. I also switched out those popsickle stick cannons for spring-loaded missile launchers. Hope to add more photos tonight. |
Author: | roguetiger [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
Doll house door hinges would work for you hinges your thinking of. Or so I've been told and seen some do it with flying models and such for opening cockpits and the like. |
Author: | lordnestor [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
I only wonder will the paint flex, or crack when the cardboard hinges bend? |
Author: | nova [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
vidmouse wrote: Y'know, I've looked occasionally for styrene at Michaels and Jo Anns and have not had much luck. Haven't tried Hobby Lobby yet but where do you guys get sheet styrene? One thing I'd be concerned with is that some of the "hinges" I used rely on the flexibility of cardboard to bend. Don't know if styrene could be as useful there, but maybe I could combine the two and have styrene sheets with a cardboard (or other) hinge. Look for a Hobby Town USA. They'll sell both Plastruct and Evergreen brand styrene products. To make your hinge you need 2 products. 1 styrene rod of a specific diameter (your choice) and 1 styrene tube with a specific inner diameter (same size as your previous choice) Basicly you want a tube with a rod that fits perfectly inside of it. Cut the Rod and Tube to your required lengths. Then Cut the Tube into 3 equal parts. (You can also choose to cut it 1/4, 1/2, 1/4...depending on the look you want.) Reassemble your tube on your rod. Glue the center section of tube to one side of the item being hinged. Glue the two outer sections of tube to the other side of the item being hinged. If needed, glue the rod into one or the other half of the hinged item (Not both) It should look and work like a Piano Hinge. |
Author: | vidmouse [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Cardboard HISS Tank WIP by Vidmouse |
Last WIP shots, covered the edges with tape then spray painted black. I still didn't like how the canopy came out kinda bull-nosed. I will follow-up with another post for the final shots. |
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