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Author:  past nastification [ Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:05 am ]
Post subject:  Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
Any pilots that came after Ace and Slipstream didn't stick around in the ongoing Joe mythos. 1988's Ghostrider was a great character and figure, but faded after the Marvel run. There may have been a GIJCC figure (I don't know), but certainly the NS era forgot all about poor Ghostrider.

This might have been because Hasbro didn't want to deal with Marvel over its flaming-skull Ghostrider. Why Hasbro didn't see the simple solution of changing him to "Ghost Writer" with a funny backstory about his hidden literary career as a romance writer, I have no idea.

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Author:  2DARK2C [ Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
Very cool! I like ghost writer lol maybe he is a former sky writer.
Author:  DanOfTheDead [ Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
past nastification wrote:
Any pilots that came after Ace and Slipstream didn't stick around in the ongoing Joe mythos. 1988's Ghostrider was a great character and figure, but faded after the Marvel run. There may have been a GIJCC figure (I don't know), but certainly the NS era forgot all about poor Ghostrider.

This might have been because Hasbro didn't want to deal with Marvel over its flaming-skull Ghostrider. Why Hasbro didn't see the simple solution of changing him to "Ghost Writer" with a funny backstory about his hidden literary career as a romance writer, I have no idea.


I remember there being a thing in the Marvel comic where noone could remember his name so they could write around the shared name. I feel like it's in one of the special mission issues for sure.

Same year as Skidmark, interestingly. Someone at Hasbro kind of dropped the ball that year on codenames.

I loved the figure as a kid. His jet never really won me over. Looked way more like a Cobra jet to me, and I didn't recognize it as being based on any of the stealth planes I was familiar with.

Excellent rendition of the character!
Author:  harlie [ Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
Uhhmm, shoot... What's his name looks great

past nastification wrote:
This might have been because Hasbro didn't want to deal with Marvel over its flaming-skull Ghostrider. Why Hasbro didn't see the simple solution of changing him to "Ghost Writer" with a funny backstory about his hidden literary career as a romance writer, I have no idea.


Oh man, then they would have to worry about PBS/Children's Television Workshop (and now Apple+ I guess :shifty:)
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Author:  past nastification [ Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
2DARK2C wrote:
Very cool! I like ghost writer lol maybe he is a former sky writer.


Thanks!

Sky Writer would also be a good work-around for the name.
Author:  past nastification [ Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
DanOfTheDead wrote:
past nastification wrote:
Any pilots that came after Ace and Slipstream didn't stick around in the ongoing Joe mythos. 1988's Ghostrider was a great character and figure, but faded after the Marvel run. There may have been a GIJCC figure (I don't know), but certainly the NS era forgot all about poor Ghostrider.

This might have been because Hasbro didn't want to deal with Marvel over its flaming-skull Ghostrider. Why Hasbro didn't see the simple solution of changing him to "Ghost Writer" with a funny backstory about his hidden literary career as a romance writer, I have no idea.


I remember there being a thing in the Marvel comic where noone could remember his name so they could write around the shared name. I feel like it's in one of the special mission issues for sure.

Same year as Skidmark, interestingly. Someone at Hasbro kind of dropped the ball that year on codenames.

I loved the figure as a kid. His jet never really won me over. Looked way more like a Cobra jet to me, and I didn't recognize it as being based on any of the stealth planes I was familiar with.

Excellent rendition of the character!


Thanks.

'87 was my last solid year as kid collector, I got a few of the '88 and '89 figures, but Ghostrider wasn't one of them. But I'm sure I would have really liked the figure back then. It's pretty solid, except for the molded-on helmet. Speaking of molded-on helmets, I did have and liked Skidmark. Skidmark's questionable color set and unpainted items bothered me than his feces-adjacent codename.
Author:  past nastification [ Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
harlie wrote:
Uhhmm, shoot... What's his name looks great

past nastification wrote:
This might have been because Hasbro didn't want to deal with Marvel over its flaming-skull Ghostrider. Why Hasbro didn't see the simple solution of changing him to "Ghost Writer" with a funny backstory about his hidden literary career as a romance writer, I have no idea.


Oh man, then they would have to worry about PBS/Children's Television Workshop (and now Apple+ I guess :shifty:)
Image
:rotfl:


Thanks!

PBS would ruin GI Joe? Sounds about right!
Author:  DanOfTheDead [ Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
past nastification wrote:

Thanks.

'87 was my last solid year as kid collector, I got a few of the '88 and '89 figures, but Ghostrider wasn't one of them. But I'm sure I would have really liked the figure back then. It's pretty solid, except for the molded-on helmet. Speaking of molded-on helmets, I did have and liked Skidmark. Skidmark's questionable color set and unpainted items bothered me than his feces-adjacent codename.


Interesting, I'm realizing for me Ghost rider totally overshadowed his vehicle, and for Skidmark it was the other way around. I never paid Skidmark very much attention because the Fox was proabably my favorite Joe land vehicle. But he was definitely one of those figures thats always needed a better color scheme, also Windmill from around the same time.
Author:  past nastification [ Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
The orange on the Fox really devalued the vehicle, even though I was more accepting of Skidmark's poor colors, which makes no sense. I did really like the rear computer station on the Fox. That was a nice upgrade from anything the VAMP or AWE Striker had.

And Windmill, another no-removable helmet! Hasbro really stumbled on his color set, too. It's obviously made to coordinate with Skidmark's color set. Like how Roadblock V2's and Cross Country's uniforms did.
Author:  DanOfTheDead [ Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
Have you illustrated Skidmark or Windmill yet? If you do, it'd be cool to see how you'd fix their colors.
Author:  DarkJedi [ Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
DanOfTheDead wrote:
Have you illustrated Skidmark or Windmill yet? If you do, it'd be cool to see how you'd fix their colors.



I liked the colors for Windmill when he was introduced in the Marvel comic. Dark sunglasses and black bomber jacket, darker tones all over.
Author:  past nastification [ Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
DanOfTheDead wrote:
Have you illustrated Skidmark or Windmill yet? If you do, it'd be cool to see how you'd fix their colors.


Skidmark is in the can but won't post for a while; haven't taken on Windmill as of yet. With Skidmark I shifted orange to rust. That tones it down just enough, but keeps it recognizable.
Author:  past nastification [ Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Every Joe #233: Ghostrider
DarkJedi wrote:
DanOfTheDead wrote:
Have you illustrated Skidmark or Windmill yet? If you do, it'd be cool to see how you'd fix their colors.



I liked the colors for Windmill when he was introduced in the Marvel comic. Dark sunglasses and black bomber jacket, darker tones all over.


I remember there were a few figures that the colorist just did whatever he/she felt like during that era. Kinda good, kinda bad. One changed I just noticed when working on my SASF Short-Fuze was that in Marvel's issue #1 he had a slight coppery tinge to his hair instead of being straight blonde/yellow.
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