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Author:  Cybertronian [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Exact colors mixes & matches

Howdy, y'all.
This is an update to a thread I started back in January, during my quest to locate paint mixes for specific Hasbro-made mold and paint colors. This thread is meant to help anyone who wants their customs to blend in with other rank-and-file Joes and Cobras. Like with the wiki article, I'm trying to match these colors mainly using cheaper, easily found paints such as Apple Barrel and Delta Ceramcoat.
Because I did find a few of the colors I was looking for, let me start by listing off the ones I have found.
Aero-Viper Teal (near match to :aeroviper:'s flight suit)
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Leaf Green
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Too Blue
Dee-Jay v1's Green (I found this while trying to develop :steelbrigade: Green 1; an exact match)
  • 2 drops of Apple Barrel Leaf Green
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Brown Oxide
Comic 3-Pack Stalker's fleshtone (an almost exact match to CP #7 :comic_stalker:'s face; similar to my own skintone)
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Golden Brown
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Brown Oxide (2 for a darker shade, as used on CP #7 Stalker's hands)
Techno-Viper (Dark) Violet (a frustrating near match; doesn't match :gyroviper: too, as I'd hoped; unsure if it matches :heliviper:)
  • 5 drops of Apple Barrel Royal Violet (6 drops for a richer, darker violet, as used on :technoviper:'s upper arms)
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Sky Blue (In my world, sky blue = Crayola's. In Apple Barrel's, the sky is a dismal, grayish color.)
  • (The 5 drop version is meant to be a close match to :technoviper:'s painted torso and helmet.)
Steel Brigade Sky Blue (an exact match to :steelbrigade:'s arms and collar)
  • Apple Barrel Pool Blue (no mixing needed!)
Steel Brigade Desert Khaki (a near match to :steelbrigade:'s pants)
  • 2 drops of Apple Barrel Toffee
  • 2 drops of Apple Barrel Golden Brown
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Yellow
  • 5 drops of Apple Barrel White (There should be one drop of White for every drop of Toffee, Golden Brown, and Yellow.)
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Sandstone
    (Think of Sandstone as an equalizing agent. The resulting color is a much closer match with it, but a nice near miss can be made without it.)
Steel Brigade Green 2 (a near match to :steelbrigade:'s kneepads and helmet frame)
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Leaf Green
  • 1 drop of Apple Barrel Forest Green (2 drops to make a richer jungle green as used on all 6 members of Slaughter's Maruaders)
1982 Cobra (Officer) Blue (a very near -- and highly sought after -- match)
  • 2 drop of Delta Ceramcoat Midnight Blue
  • 2 drop of Apple Barrel Too Blue (1 drop to match some yellowed parts)
  • 1 drop of Delta Ceramcoat Ocean Reef Blue
    Again, this was tested against a 1983 :cobraofficer: v1.5. Other blue Cobras in my collection are :viper:, :televiper:, and the 2004 Cobra Infantry 6-pack.

Other colors that I am looking for include
    :steelbrigade: Steel Brigade Green 1 (Used on Steel Brigade 1A-E's vest or Duke v2's shirt)
    :crimsonguard: Crimson Guard ... "Crimson"
  • Heavy Duty v8's light skintone OR Roadblock v3 :roadblock3:'s skintone
  • (I may or may not have mixed a close match to Comic 3-Pack Green :comic_stalker: :comic_hawk: :comic_breaker:, but have forgotten the formula. If I have, I'll be sure to list it in this thread.)
PLEASE, help me find these colors and their matches, and let me know what paint colors you used to mix them.

Also, if anyone is offering to share paint with others, I still would like to get Apple Barrel's Cinnamon Apple, and Medium Flesh.
Thank you for your patience.
-- Cybertronian. :steelbrigade:

Author:  Cybertronian [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Exact colors mixes & matches

Bumping this thread up some.
Also, I need to find "Slaughter's Marauders Blue". This same shade of blue is used on Cobra Commander v1 and Snake-Eyes v4.
"Steel Brigade Green 1" (nearly the same as TF Duke's shirt and backpack) is also proving to be elusive.

Author:  Cap [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:13 am ]
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We'll be hitting Michael's and Jo-Ann Fabrics tomorrow afternoon, so I'll look and see if I can find your two paints.

Oh, and awesome work on the mixing. That must have been exhaustive.

Author:  Cybertronian [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Exact colors mixes & matches

Thanks.
I have about 3 comic backing boards I turned into makeshift palettes, taking the dried samples on toothpicks and placing them next to a Joe or two I was trying to match. I will say that in most cases, painted details seem easier to match than molded colors due to an unknown amount of plastic degrading after 15-25 years.
Since I just got a swivel-armed :cobracommander:, I learned by a fluke that his blue matched Snake-Eyes v4 and my SM Spirit and Barbecue. (I wonder what Hasbro or Pantome color he is?)

Author:  Cap [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:33 pm ]
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Hey Cyber,

Just came back from both places, and this is what I discovered. Jo-Ann fabrics only sells Folk Art, Ceramcoat, their own brand of colors. Didn't see anything even remotely in the color scheme you're looking for.

Michael's on the other hand did carry Apple Barrel. What I found out is that they either no longer carry Cinnamon Apple, or they have done what Folk Art does occasionally, rename the color to something else to try another way of selling. What I did find was:

Apple Barrel: Red Apple
Delta Creative Ceramcoat: Medium Flesh

Without the actual PLAID numbers, it was hard to track down the ones you want, but from what I am finding (at least locally here in FL) one or both might be discontinued, but only in our area.

If you shoot me your addy, you can try these two out free of charge of course and with my compliments. See if they may be applicable.

Author:  Cybertronian [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Exact colors mixes & matches

Thanks for the help.
I just looked up the Plaid numbers you mentioned.
Cinnamon Apple's number is 20765.
Medium Flesh's number is 20556.
I also see the number of 2 other colors that interest me. Crimson (20533) and Midnight Blue (20549). Crimson I think is still being sold at Wal-Mart, and with some luck, I'll be able to pick it up. Midnight Blue was suggested to me by Doc Rob. I hadn't found it but was able to make a completely different Cobra Blue (matched to my Cobra Officer, Viper, and Tele-Viper).

http://www.plaidonline.com/articleImages/ab_ref.jpg <-- This sheet shows everything but the MSI ("Michael's") colors.

I'll PM you my address.
-- :steelbrigade:.

Author:  Doc Rob [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:26 am ]
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I'm going to have to copy your new additions to my list. :-) I've whipped up a few batches but half the time forget to write them down and lately my matches seem to be coming close, instead of as exact as they used to be. I have come up with some offbeat colors, such as Doll Flesh, which very much resembles the skin color of 12" Joe and similar figures from the 1970s, but that's about it.

Midnight Blue was a Folk Art color but I've noticed at least locally that Michael's no longer has it. And I'm sorely missing Cinnamon Apple--I haven't found an analogous color in any brand yet, and it's a heavily used color in my mixes. I've come close to emulating it but not enough to match yet.

Author:  Cybertronian [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:06 am ]
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I've recently acquired Cinnamon Apple and (Delta Ceramcote) Medium Flesh through an auction (along with 46 other 2 oz. paints ... HELP!).

Awhile back I think I found the Cobra Commander/Snake-Eyes v4 blue... but lost the formula, along with my original formula sheet. Reprinting many of my old color match posts, but will have to remix some of the newer combinations.

-- Cybertronian. :steelbrigade:

Author:  Goldbug [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:12 am ]
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Michael's craft store sell Apple Barrel paints. They also have their own brand made by the Apple Barrel company.

Author:  HypnoHustler [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:50 pm ]
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Anyone had any luck finding matches for the 25th skintones? I've gotten close, but never spot on, though I did manage to match that weird Gung-Ho skincolor . . . .

Author:  Cybertronian [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:34 pm ]
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I only just recently got into the 25th Anniv. figures (mainly due to earlier ones being out of scale compared to ARAH and JvC/VvV figures). Other than a few Joes, most of my 25As are variants of the Cobra and Crimson Guard platform (Scar-Face, CG "Fred", Cobra Vehicle Gunner, "Viper Pilot"/Cobra, etc.) and a few movie figures (Pit Commando, the first 3 lady Joes -- both Scarletts, Cover Girl, Helix -- movie "Air-Viper", movie AVAC, and Aero-Viper). I hope to get one of the Pimp Daddy Destroes before they get (more) high-priced.

It bothered me that they developed a different Crimson Guard red, but at least all of the CGs are consistent, as are the various Cobra Trooper/Officers (in spite of their cartoon, toy, or comic leanings). Although I could try to match their base/uniform colors or skin color, for now I'm content to base my color references on the 1982-2006 figures. If someone finally cooks up matches to the 2007-09 figures, please post them either in the forum, or add them to the JoeCustoms Customizing Guide.

-- Cybertronian. :steelbrigade:

Author:  Shadow Convoy [ Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:10 pm ]
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This is a great list. I am curently working a custom Stalker. Thanks!!

Author:  Cybertronian [ Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Exact colors mixes & matches

You're welcome.
Fair warning: My Steel Brigade Tan didn't look quite as close after using one of those Daylight "squiggly" bulbs. So I'll have to see if something better comes up.
Techno-Viper Violet uses Royal Purple, not Regal. Sorry for anyone who's missed out when shopping for it.

Author:  Cybertronian [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Exact colors mixes & matches

Howdy, y'all.
I decided to go to Michael's after a doctor's appointment, and picked up a few new greens and one tannish color, hoping to make better headway in finding matches to Steel Brigade's Green #1 (for the torso & backpack) and Desert Khaki, for his pants, which aren't far off from the same shade used on Airborne v1 and Cover Girl v1's pants. I seem to have come out better than I hoped, as 2 of the colors I bought -- Apple Barrel's Light Ivy Green and Khaki -- are almost spot-on for the colors I need. Further testing will be done to see if I can come out a teensy bit closer.
-- Cybertronian :steelbrigade:.
P.S.: I still need a bottle of Folk Art's #506 Silver Anniversary, and can't find it in the store I go to. HELP!

Author:  DarkJedi [ Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:11 pm ]
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This should be in the wiki.

How about 82/83 :og13: ?

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