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 Post subject: What Is Your G.I.*JOE History?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:00 am 
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What is your history with these 3 3/4 inch Real American Heroes? How did you get started? What were your first figures and vehicles? What are your favorite and not so favorite memories of collecting? Take some time, write your story down and share it with the rest of us.

It was 1982 and I saw the first animated commercial advertising for the new G.I.*JOE comic book coming out. It wasn't long after that the toy line followed.

My head was still wrapped around the new Return of the Jedi toys that had come out that year, but there was this other guy hanging on the pegs next to him. Mom was OK with getting me Star Wars figures, once in a while, but she wouldn't buy me any G.I.*JOEs. She didn't like the idea of me having war toys. As a nine year old, I guess I never saw the irony of the situation where she wouldn't buy me war toys, yet she'd buy me toys with the word "Wars" in their name.

My friend Pete and his twin brother Jeff were comic book kids and knew all of the Marvel characters like an encyclopedia, so when G.I.*JOE came out, they were all over it. Their birthday came up and all they wanted was G.I.*JOE toys, especially anything Cobra related, so I got them a FANG and an officer to fly it. As party favors, the boys gave each of their guests one of the original 13 of their choice. I didn't quite know all the characters at that point, so I blurted out the only one I knew. My first figure was Rock & Roll, straight arm.

Since he was the only Joe I had, he was forced to mingle with my Star Wars figures, but man! What a far superior figure he was! Rotating shoulders, bending knees and arms, and a twisting waist. Yeah, I knew what was going to be all over my Christmas/Birthday wish lists. Not that it did any good, because, as I said, mom wouldn't buy me war toys.

Within a couple months I had acquired Zap and Scarlett. This wasn't out of any kind of real love for those characters, but more due to the fact that the Target near by sold out of every figure but those two quickly. Trying to mimic the card art pose of Zap, his hands were busted within a day. Rock & Roll's left arm was cracked at the elbow because I had seen in a catalog that he was supposed to have "swivel arm battle grip" and I tried to twist his arm, not knowing there was a difference in molds.

My first vehicle was the Polar Battle Bear. I bought it from a friend who received it as a birthday gift, but didn't collect G.I.*JOE. Zap and R&R rode the back of that thing while Scarlett drove. And boy did they kick the asses of those figures from a galaxy far, far away (Rock & Roll's time with them was learning what weaknesses to exploit, not to befriend them).

I figured that Scarlett might be a little on the cold side wearing only that thin body suit, so I gave her Yoda's cloth coat and his utility belt and the glow in the dark sword of a Dungeons and Dragons figure. Viola! My very first custom!

My collection grew slowly as I had to buy all my own Joes and I mainly had just figures. Thankfully the Flag Point thing started so I could get some of those toys I missed out on because I didn't have enough money at the time, so I got a HISS, MANTA and Hooded Cobra Commander amongst others that way.

About this time I met a guy who lived down the street named Cameron. He was about a year younger than me and his parents were divorced. That divorce worked to his advantage as his parents tried to buy his love. And boy howdy did they buy it! He had almost all the Star Wars toys released, all the Transformers and later all the MASK toys. But the pride of his toy box was his G.I.*JOE collection. He had everything that I had only looked at longingly in catalogs and box inserts and toy shelves.

The Skystriker, Dragonfly and MOBAT. The Wolverine, what the heck was this thing? I'd never heard of it. A girl driver? This thing is too cool.

As each year progressed and each new wave was released, I knew within a week it'd be in his room. Cameron and I played G.I.*JOE for hours on end. We'd start off picking what vehicles wanted and going from there. He was always G.I.*JOE, I was always Cobra. He'd use the Joe HQ, later combined with the Battle Platform. My base? Castle Greyskull. Seemed appropriate to me at the time, and the throne designed to fit a six inch tall figure was perfect for the six inch tall ego of 3 3/4 inch high Cobra Commander.

He lived in a four bedroom house and the hallway was a river where the Killer WHALE and the Moray would duke it out. One guest room was his domain, the other guest room was mine. His bedroom was where the FLAGG (actually his bed as the real FLAGG had not been released yet) was stationed or when it suited my needs, it was Cobra's heli-carrier.
He and I had some awesome battles. Although it sounds boring, some of the fun was trying to remember what missiles went with which plane or vehicle after the battle was over.

When ARAH came out on TV, I couldn't get home from school fast enough to watch it, even more so when Revenge of Cobra came out. Then when the series came out, oh my DOG!!!! I was in Heaven! But no! What do you mean it's on at the same time as Transformers!?! Fortunately Cameron had a VCR and we could watch G.I.*JOE and record Transformers and watch it immediately after. We later learned to record G.I.*JOE because we'd have rather have watched G.I.*JOE over and over. I still have pretty much all of the second episode of Revenge of Cobra memorized because we watched it so much.

Once the series started, the Saturday after Pyramid of Darkness was aired, the TV station showed it all the way through, which was good, because I had missed it through out the week. Even now when I watch it, I immediately go back to that same feeling I had then when the scene is shown down the tunnel and the flames from the space shuttle come rushing out as the shuttle is transported to the launch site.

Unfortunately Cameron moved a few years later. It was somewhere between the 86 releases and when Arise Surpentor, Arise was aired, as I remember having Dr. Minbender and Viper v1, but hadn't seen them animated.

So now I was once again stuck with my small collection. That was fine though, I had incorporated other similar scaled vehicles into the fold. I liked following in the lines of the first two mini-series. Cobra has a cool weapon that, similar to the MASS Device, runs on exotic elements from around the world. I had some cool looking rocks that played the part of the elements and I'd make small teams that had to go in search of them.

My uncle had a cabin in the mountains of Colorado. I generally refrained from bringing my Joes with me because my cousins had a a bunch of toys up there and generally brought their own Joes. One time mom, uncle and I and were going to be the only people who were going to be there for a long weekend, so I brought some Joes along. This was a chance for my go-to guys to enjoy the mountains with me. Duke, Footloose, Mutt and Alpine. I had a big four wheel drive truck that was perfectly sized for Joes and the mountains seemed the best place to have them use this truck. Since I felt these guys needed more than just the guns and packs they originally came with, I borrowed gear from some of my other Joes as well as gear from the Machine Gun and Mortar sets.
I had a great time using the truck and my Joes together over some of the rough terrain around the cabin. They didn't need and Cobras to fight, they were just out having fun. So was I.
Later in the weekend, some friends of my uncle came for a visit, and brought their five year old son. That kid wasn't in the house for five minutes before he started eye-balling my Joes. I tried to steer hi towards my cousins toys, but he wanted my Joes and their awesome truck.
Mom told me I needed to share my toys. I told her that five year old kids don't know how to play safely with small toys like action figures. I distracted the kid with something and snatched all my Joes and put them away before he mess them up. He didn't like that, I didn't care.
It got late in the night and the family decided to spend the night. The next morning I woke up and walked into the kitchen. From there I saw the kid. With my truck. And my Joes. I asked mom why she let him play with my stuff when my cousins had all these other great toys around (on a side note, I wasn't hoping the kid would break my cousin's toys and not mine, but my cousin's toys consisted of things like Tonka and Nylint trucks. Big, heavy duty toys designed to stand up to abuse). Mom told me I was being silly and not to be so selfish. No sooner had she said that then we looked out on the back to deck just in time to see that little booger eater fling my truck, Joes included over the edge and send it tumbling down the brush covered hill.
Duke, Footloose, Mutt, and Junkyard survived.
Over half the gear was lost
Alpine was MIA and presumed KIA.

When we returned to Denver, the rest of the Joes held a lovely funeral for their fallen comrade.

A few years later, although I still liked collecting and watching the show, may parents made the decision that I was too old for toys and needed to get into other things. I didn't see it that was so I'd have be sneaky about watching the show and making sure all my stuff was cleaned up before my parents got home from work.

By the time I was in 9th grade, yeah, I had decided I was too old for toys. I had moved to California to live with my dad, but didn't take any of my stuff like that with me.

I hadn't bought anything Joe related in years, yet I still looked whenever I might find myself in a toy store or department store.

Until 1992. Then for some reason I bought a Gung Ho figure. I guess I figured, I am now a Marine (having just joined the Marines and at the time was going through Motor Transport school), maybe I should get the guy who was THE Marine in my childhood world. In fact, to be perfectly honest, G.I.*JOE was about half the reason I joined the Marines. Gung Ho hung with me for a while.

After that I didn't buy another Joe figure for a few years, but I went back to collecting another figure form my childhood; Star Wars. Mr. Lucas aka "The Maker," decided to re-release the greatest movie trilogy ever made and with that re-release came a whole slew of new figures. I ended up with about thirty of them. I didn't really want any of the vehicles, coz they take up so much space, so I got the small Galoob (I think) collection.

One time whilst perusing the Star Wars isle at a We B Toys, I noticed that G.I.*JOE was now being released in three packs. I couldn't find any SW figures I wanted, so I plunked down the cash for ALL the three packs at once. I may not have been able to eat that week, but at least I had something to keep me entertained.

The new Joes were acquainted with my old childhood Joes and they got along fine, but got put into a storage unit because I had to move and could immediately bring them with me.
Here's the suck part; I was mailing in my payments for the storage unit. Apparently the book keeper wasn't doing her job very well and kept entering my payments into the wrong file, so when the owner was going over the records, it appeared as if I hadn't paid for storage in several months, so all my stuff was sold. Everything I owned, all my Marines Corps memorabilia, all but the clothes I had with me, my housewares and bathroom stuff and yes, all my old toys, including those Joe and Star Wars figures and toys.

G.I.*JOE was out of my mind for a while as I tried to regroup my life.

Fast forward a few years to 2002. I was working at a hotel as the night auditor. One of my co-workers is a comic geek and had some Joe, SW and TF decals on his laptop. One night he left a copy of the movie and I watched it and was brought back to my childhood.
Since my job as the night auditor was an eight hour shift with maybe two actual hours of work, I had a lot of dead time on my hands.

I cruised eBay looking for some of the old Joe toys I owned, just to see what they might be worth these days. Then I started getting it in my head about building small teams, like using Gung Ho, Leatherneck, Sgt Slaughter and Mainframe as a small team of Marines. Or maybe Repainting a Skystriker and using model decals make it look like a real F-14. Knowing the Dragonfly looks like an AH-1 Cobra, I thought about ways to fix that tail section to put a prop there. Strangely enough, I honestly thought I was the only person who had ever thought about customizing G.I.*JOE toys this way. None of this really went anywhere as I never bought anything, but it was just fun to fantasize for a bit. I did buy the entire series and movie on VHS, but that's about the only Joe purchase I'd made.

Again, hit the fast forward button to about a year ago. I walked into a surplus store that was going out of business. Amongst other things, they had a box full of G.I.*JOE and similar toys that they had on display in their storefront cases. I asked how much they wanted for the box and the girl said "I dunno. $20?" Cha-Ching! Sold!

The box had an almost complete, but badly yellowed Skystriker, a few 82/83 figures plus some others. Quite a few of them were complete or mostly complete surprisingly enough. With those figures, the Skystriker and a couple of other vehicles, I made over $150 on eBay. I had actually searched eBay for some of the missing parts and so total probably had about $50 total invested. Not a bad little profit. I didn't really have any ambition to start collecting at that time, but it was fun to refurbish those toys

One day out of pure boredom while reading an issue of Star Wars Insider, I saw a picture of the 501st and wondered if there were any G.I.*JOE related costuming groups. I looked up on line and sure enough there was G.I.Joe Costumers (a really good group of people). I lurked for a bit and decided to join up. Since I don't quite have the physique to be Gung Ho or Sgt Slaughter and they already had a Leatherneck, I decided to go with Mainframe (I'd have felt really out of place NOT wearing some kind of Marine Corps uniform)

This is where my current interest in G.I.*JOE came from. While trying to find references for Mainframe, I happened upon a site called Joe Battlelines, and read the review of Mainframe, but furthermore the great pictures. This got me to thinking a little less about a costume and little more about the figures and vehicles.

Now I wanted to get some figures. All because of a review of Mainframe written by Justin "General Hawk" Bell. Damn you Justin Bell! Damn you to where ever Canadians are typically damned to! (Probably Detroit) Because of your great pictures and awesome figure reviews, I am now a Joe-a-holic and have a really good collection going. Oh, not only did he get me hooked with his reviews, he hosts a web site site with something called a "Dio-Story." Something I read and now have endeavored to create myself.

I was reminded of one of my favorite episodes of the cartoon, "Let's Play Soldier." Within the show was what I thought was the perfect team made up of Gung Ho, Leatherneck, Beach Head, Wet Suit, and Low Light. So I thought I'd buy those figures., but maybe add Torpedo so there were two SEALs. Maybe Shipwreck too. Now they need something to get around in...HMMM, a Tomahawk would be cool. Maybe repaint a Moray in US Navy colours....

Crap.

Now I'm hooked.

Now I've got a decent collection of over 200 figures and almost 60 vehicles. I've started customizing a few vehicles and figures thanks to Joe Customs, a site that had made me realize that I wasn't the only one ever to think of customizing G.I.*JOEs. I don't know why I thought that, as I'm not that savvy, but I'm glad to have found the site and see what possibilities there are.

I've started my own Dio-Story thanks to JoeDios and General Joes, as well as having enjoyed taking pictures of the figures and vehicles for just regular pictures for fun.

Now, to counteract the suck part of when the book keeper lost my storage payments and I lost all my stuff, apparently my toys found their way into the on line world. A few months ago I bought a bunch of HISSes. One of these HISSes had the decals put on in a non-symmetrical way, much like those of the HISS I owned as a kid. I removed the turret from the hull and sure enough, painted on the bottom of the turret were my initials. My mom had painted them there so I could ID mine over those of my friends.

I was so happy to have scored one of my old toys for when I was a kid that I had thought was gone forever.

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 Post subject: Re: What Is Your G.I.*JOE History?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:19 am 
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The very first figure I can clearly recall getting was a straight arm Grunt back in 1982.

I ended up with a Baroness figure and Airborne, along with a RAM and an Accessories Pack. I used to carry these around in one of those mini-backpack looking bags that could be used with a belt.

As I got more figures over the years, I ended up carrying them around in a 200 round .50 cal ammo box, which I still have.

My first Marvel comic I can recall buying had Clutch, Duke, Cover Girl, Snow Job, and Roadblock chasing after Cobra Commander in Switzerland (#24 if my memory is intact).

From there I managed to acquire more and more figures. I've mentioned the flea market at the Pageant of Steam in Canandaigua, NY. Every year my family and I would go there and I usually scored a lot of figures and vehicles that way. One year I came home with about 50 figures I had gotten at a quarter a piece. I'm still kicking myself for not getting all of them.

It's been downhill from there.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:00 am 
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I think I have told this story before, but let's go to The Book of Oa and remember..........

1982 and I made the trans-Atlantic trip with my family to meet my relatives in Colorado. We were staying with my aunt in Canon City (she was a GI bride at teh end of WWII). She took me shopping to one of teh local stores, K-Mart, Walamart, can't remember which. I saw a couple of Star Wars comics on teh shelves and picked them out. I kept looking for something interesting. It was the cover art on issue one of GI Joe that sprang off the shelf at me. I flicked through it and thought it looked different and ineteresting. When I got back to the house, I devoured it, then i noticed teh advert in teh back for the figures. I went back teh next day and bought Snake-Eyes, Scarlett and Flash.

When I got back home to England, I started casting far and wide to find the following issues, with some difficulty. No comic shop for 30 miles. Then came Action Force over here and it was easier to collect teh figures, if not teh comics.

26 years later, and I am still here, still a fan of teh franchise.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:21 am 
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Summer of 1983.
A kid living next door to our apartment asked me if I wanted to play "army guy".
I shrugged and said OK. He brought out an old ice cream container filled with SW characters and other figures that I had never seen before. They had better mobility than the SW figures and they looked more military. Of course those were GI Joe.

Throughout the summer we played with his figures on the balcony. I remember that I always picked Torpedo as my main character. After each day of playing, I told my parents about these incredible toys that he had.

Along October came my birthday and to my surprise I received my first Joes: Torpedo, Doc, Gung Ho, Snake eyes and Cobra trooper(or officer). I was in heaven.

The following Christmas my aunt gave me the APC and the Sky Striker along some other figures. From then on everybody new that birthdays and Christmas gift should be GI Joe.

I only read some random issues of the comic as a kid, but I watched the cartoon religiously.

I loved the characters, but as I played I always seemed to create my own universe.
I also remember using GI Joe figures as Transformers characters. The Hiss Driver was Optimus Prime and I used a Hot Wheel truck as his vehicle mode. Duke was Starscream and the Crimson Guard was Scourge.

During my childhood I had several main characters. Flash held an important role until he vanished one morning of 1986. Blowtorch picked up the leadership of the team for two years until his thumbs broke.

Falcon became the reluctant leader. Often a lone hero fighting an empire of crime he developed several skills in the years. He became the White Tiger ninja (Storm shadow V2) or the Panther (Snake Eyes V3) to fight evil. The playmobile civilians were safe under his watch.

I went through a franken-joe phase and made some weird mix. Falcon kept his arms but had Ghostrider's torso and legs. Sonic Tunnel Rat had Steel Brigades's legs and others who didn't have better luck.

When I was about 14 my mom gave my toys to my cousin's kids. I only had Snake Eyes V3 left.

While in college I realized that I missed my old troops and I gave my cousin a call. her kids were older and they didn't play with the Joes, they prefered the TMNT.

She managed to save a few: Falcon, Sonic Tunnel Rat, Storm Shadow V2, Drop Zone and Grid Iron. They were about in the same condition as when they were given away. My Falcon still had GR's torso and legs and I wouldn't change them back.
These are my childhood joes the way they were played with.

Today I bought several figures that I had as a kid and those I couldn't get back then and many are in incredible condition, but they'll never be as special as the original guy with whom I built so many adventures.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:10 pm 
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in 1986 I was 3 years old and obsessed with M.A.S.K. (it was on tv at a more convinet time for me then Joe was). My parents had taken me to a toy store, (they tell me it was a lyonel playworld) and while there my father spotted a Shipwreck. This was important becuse my father had 12" Joes back in the 60's, and the had 1 Action Sailor. He always remembers it because it had blond hair and was really hard to find in our part of the country back in the 60s.

So he sees this little G.I. Joe sailor and shows it to me. At that moment, in that store, the obsession began. 24 years later and I've never stoped. I made my mother read me his filecard untill the cardboard disintigrated. More came. Airtight, Lifeline, Hawk, Letherneck, Wetsuit, Lowlight, Falcon, Jinx, Outback Crock Master, mail away Cobra Commander, the Mauler (first christmas present I can remember ever getting), the Havoc, Cobra Jetpack, the Triple T and Sargent Slaughter.

Even when I was in jouinor high school and joes went away and wasn't cool to get toys anymore, I still bought used ones at the flee market. I just couldn't stop.

The in 1997 the TRU figures came out and I could buy new Joes again, it was awesome. I could buy more then one of each if I wanted..... and if I could buy more then one, maybe I could customize the extras like those guys on yojoe.com.

And it just keeps going.

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I was 5 and received Backblast for my birthday. Then My aunt cleaned out my adult cousin's room and she gave me an APC, a base MMS with Hawk,Whirlwind, VAMP, RAM , straight arm RnR,Clutch, Breaker, Grunt, Flash and Cobra Trooper X2 from there on in I was set. I started buying everything I saw at yard sales, thirft stores and close out sales.

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I was a He-Man kid. I remember walking by these little army guys a few times at the store, and they looked kind of neat, but they were too small, since they wouldn't play well with He-Man.
Then at school, during Christmas exchange in class, I got Rock-n-Roll. He was pretty cool, and I really dug the fact he had the file card. It made him a person instead of just a toy. However, I didn't have anyone for him to fight. I immediately went home and told mom and dad I need more of these army guys. That Christmas, I got the APC and Gung-Ho, plus a couple of Sgt Rock Bad Guys (I assume my parents figured that since they were called the Bad Guys, they must be THE bad guys). I immediately realized I didn't care much for the non-Joe figures and learned to distinguish them from there on.
I collected Joes and Transformers only from that point on, with He-Man being passed on to my kid brother. I collected up until HS, then quit, putting the Joes away, although I would occasionally pick up a new figure or vehicle here and there.
After HS, I decided I was an adult and should get rid of the toys. I sold most of my figures to a local dealer, keeping only those with sentimental value. I used that money to fund a trip to Vegas.
I got back into Transformers in about 2000, and during trips to look at the figures in the stores, noticed that they'd re-released a lot of the Joes from when I was a kid, in two packs. I didn't buy any, thinking I just didn't want to get hooked on another line. I actually dug out the vehicles I had left and was going to Ebay them. However, in researching them to find a decent price, I started remembering playing with them as a kid. I had recently lost a friend who'd been a close friend since childhood, and tracked down some of the figures I remembered him having. From there, it just snowballed until I became a full-fledged collector.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:34 pm 
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My first encounter with the Real American Hero was an advertisement in Marvel Comics, and astounding as it sounds, my first reaction was, "They've got to be kidding." I had never collected the 12" line, which was now long in the past, and in 1982, with Star Wars as the main action figure line on the shelves, and military toys distinctly out of fashion, I didn't think this stood a chance.

I first saw the figures in a pharmacy. Tucson didn't have a Toys "R" Us or any such thing at that time. I remember being distinctly impressed by the artwork, and I loved the idea of the file cards. And, the figures were clearly more articulated than Star Wars at the time. Show me a toy that has imagination, creativity, and quality to it, and I'll be interested.

I brought home Snake-Eyes and Flash as my first figures. Snake-Eyes because he looked a little different, and Flash because he looked a little different than the others, and I liked the idea of a reasonably plausible Laser Rifle Trooper.

I soon went back for the others, and, having virtually no understanding of how toy marketing worked at that time, I started getting quite anxious to find Scarlett, who had not yet been released. I even wrote Hasbro, and they responded very courteously. Ultimately, of course, Scarlett did turn up, and I added her to the collection. And of course I started reading the comic book.

When the Swivel-Arm Battle Grip was added in 1983, an idea I certainly approved of since it had always been frustrating to me that Clutch couldn't hold the steering wheel of the VAMP with both hands, I quickly replaced all of my first-year Joes, and then did what in retrospect was a pretty boneheaded thing -- I sold them to a second-hand toy store for about ten bucks. :-/

I saw the new characters debut in the comic books, and honestly wondered if Doc, Snow Job, Gung-Ho, and the others would be added to the toys. They clearly didn't fit the existing molds. Little did I know that Hasbro was expanding the line and crafting far more individual molds, since the line had certainly proven its popularity. I ultimately discovered these figures in a Mervyn's, which would become one of my best sources for toys over the next several years.

I discovered the first animated series by accident. I was watching my grandmother's apartment for her, just channel-surfing one afternoon, and all of a sudden -- WHOA! Hey, that looked like Major Bludd, Cobra Commander, and Destro! A G.I.Joe cartoon? COOL! :-D

In 1985, the Aircraft Carrier came on the scene. I actually learned of its existence in an article in, of all places, the Wall Street Journal! My first reaction, as I suspect it was for many people, was "Where the heck am I supposed to put that!?" I certainly wanted it, though. I received it from my parents as a Christmas present, but there was a proviso -- I had to go pick it up myself. This resulted in a very interesting trip to Mervyn's on the day after Thanksgiving -- Black Friday -- of 1985, which I have related before. I had gotten to know a clerk at Mervyn's, and that was her last day on the job, and she was kind enough to transfer a Carrier to that particular store, so I had no real choice in the matter if I wanted it.

By 1987, Tucson had a Toys "R" Us, and that was where I obtained the Defiant Space Shuttle Complex. The process at the time was to take a ticket to the front counter, pay for the item, and then drive around to the back of the store to a pick-up area for large items. The guy that brought my shuttle out to me looked like a professional wrestler in his spare time, and had the shuttle slung over one shoulder. He plopped it down in front of me and said, "All yours!" I am not a particularly muscular individual. I sort of gave him a look. He said, "Hey, would you like some help getting that in your car?" I resisted the urge to say, "Wow, you figured that out so fast you must be a rocket scientist", and managed to choke out, "Yes, thank you..." :roll:

Toys "R" Us would prove to be an excellent source for G.I.Joe over the next several years, especially since that store had the habit of leaving shipping boxes sitting in the aisles, which I had few compunctions about opening (in my defense, I was generally nice enough to stock on the shelves whatever I didn't actually purchase). This netted me Tiger Force, Battle Force 2000, and Python Patrol in good order.

1991 was a special year for me, since that FINALLY saw the release of the first Oktober Guard figure, Red Star. I'd been screaming for Oktober Guard figures for years, real-world politics be hanged. I was also pleased to see Big Ben, the British SAS trooper, since by this time I had made a friend in England, initially as a pen-pal, and he had secured for me a number of interesting British exclusive figures. Early on, he had mentioned that England had just gotten Tiger Force, and listed the names. When I saw Outback and Psyche-Out on the list, that was the first time I realized that there were international variants.

This is going to sound strange, especially these days, but even as late as 1991, I sincerely believed that I was one of a VERY small number of adults that collected toys. At least modern toys. Most of the books and price guides I had seen were for antique toys, well prior to when I was born. I didn't think there was a modern toy collecting world.

Then I discovered a book -- "Tomart's Price Guide to Action Figure Collectibles". This book actually covered toys that had been created within my life span! The original G.I. Joe, Captain Action, Major Matt Mason, Big Jim, Mego, the modern G.I. Joe -- stuff I'd actually OWNED! It was a revelation. So was the fact that the price guide mentioned that there were regular publications -- Tomart's, Lee's -- that covered modern toys.

In 1992, I attended my first G.I.Joe Convention. This, too, was a revelation. I had no idea there were that many adult collectors of G.I. Joe. I was no longer quite so hesitant to enter a toy store after that. I would continue to attend G.I. Joe Conventions regularly for quite a few years following.

Attending these Conventions also gave me the opportunity to meet a number of Hasbro's creative personnel, such as Vinnie D'Alleva and Kirk Bozigian. This would be notable for me later on.

Of course, the Real American Hero came to its initial end in 1994, and I was not happy. I remember attending the 1994 Convention in New York City where the announcement was made, along with the unveiling of the Sgt. Savage line. The response to both was -- less than enthusiastic.

That Convention would also lead to one of the strangest incidents, in my opinion, that I've experienced at a Convention. At the time, I was writing for a magazine called "Collectible Toys & Values". I had just completed a very thorough listing of all G.I. Joe products to date, which was turned into a price guide by the magazine (I did not do the actual pricing).

At this Convention, I was hoping to find a 1984 Roadblock. Mine was damaged. I finally had the chance to meet my editor, and we decided to go around to some of the hotel rooms that were open the night before the Convention for early trading and buying. One such room had a huge supply of 3-3/4" figures, including an excellent Roadblock. The room was occupied by a man I estimated to be in his early 40's, and his two young sons. I asked him how much the figure was. He said to his sons, "Boys, where's the Wheeler list?" 8-O Keep in mind, I had not introduced myself.

I said, "The WHAT!?" My editor is starting to crack up behind me. The guy goes on to say, "Oh, yeah, there's this guy named Wheeler out there. Writes to the comic book, writes for this magazine, he compiled this list..."

I said, "I'M Wheeler." I wasn't trying to boast, I was just trying to get the guy to calm down. He gets this astounded look on his face, and said, "No way!" I said, "Seriously, I'm the guy who put that list together." His reaction was not what I expected. He looked at his kids and said, "Boys, shake hands with a legend!" 8-O :roll:

At this point my editor is on the floor laughing his @$$ off, and I was looking around expecting to see Rod Serling step out from behind the curtain. Was this for real!? It gave me some inkling as to how the Hasbro employees felt at the earliest conventions when suddenly granted a certain celebrity status that they were not at all accustomed to.

The guy flatly refused to let me pay for the Roadblock figure. He was "honored" to give it to me, for "all of my service to the hobby." I still have that Roadblock...

I went back to my hotel room in a state of moderate disbelief.

When Hasbro opted to bring back the Real American Hero for its 15th Anniversary in 1997, a number of notable collectors, myself included, were contacted by Hasbro for a certain amount of input, and to write some of the file cards. I had the distinct honor of writing the file cards for some of the most major players in the concept, including Duke, Destro, Lady Jaye, Baroness, Cobra Commander, Snake-Eyes, and Storm Shadow. Also got my name on the package along with the other collectors. This remains one of my fondest memories of G.I. Joe.

When it was time to plan the 1998 line, Hasbro wanted to add an Oktober Guard three-pack to the series. The only problem was that there were only two Oktober Guard figures in existence -- Big Bear and Red Star. I had won first prize at the 1997 G.I. Joe Convention for my Oktober Guard (and Mortal Kombat) customs, so I was contacted by Hasbro, who wanted to know which Oktober Guard characters could most easily be made from existing parts. I sent them photos of my figures with various instructions and recommendations.

It came down to Daina, using a Lady Jaye body and a newly-sculpted head. I was asked to paint the prototype figure (in astoundingly short time), and later, came up with the name "Lt. Volga", when Daina (I assume) wouldn't quite clear the legal department. Somewhere along the way, the figure was drastically recolored from my original work, which was based on the back cover of G.I.Joe Yearbook #2. However, since we have an official Daina figure these days, I tend to regard Volga as a separate character.

I also came up with the character name and file card for Vypra, as well as several other file cards for 1998, including the Oktober Guard.

I continued to collect the Real American Hero, of course, into the newsculpt era, especially with the traditional-style comic-based sets. I can't say there are any real standout moments, except for having the chance to meet Buzz Aldrin, one of the very small number of people who have walked on the moon, at one of the Conventions.

But there were a few standout moments for me when I attended the 2004 Convention, the last one I've been able to drop in on.

Hey, have a G.I.Joe Convention at my favorite hotel at Walt Disney World and throw in a tour of NASA's Kennedy Space Center and just TRY to keep me away from it. I pretty well ruined my finances to get there and things haven't really been the same since, but I made it.

But there were three high points at that Convention for me. #1 - Meeting Kirk Bozigian for the first time in a number of years, and he REMEMBERED me, which impressed the heck out of me. #2 - Meeting Larry Hama for the first time EVER, after all those letters I wrote to the comic book over the years. #3 - Seeing the prototypes for the OKTOBER GUARD figures, especially Horror-Show, a longtime personal favorite.

I'm still collecting. Looking forward to Big Lob, and I'm keeping an eye especially on some of the upcoming vehicles, in particular. And I've made some friends and gotten to know some cool people from all over the planet thanks to my involvement with G.I. Joe and the action figure world in general. Still having fun, too. :-D


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1982, Caribou Maine, Ames. My brother and I spotted GI Joes in the toy isle. He grabbed Stalker, Cobra soldier, and Snake Eyes. I grabbed Rock and Roll. The name, the blond hair, the criss-crossing bullets, the big machine gun. I was sold. I got the RAM when it came out because it had Rock n Roll on the box.

My brother was starting to lose interest in toys so I ended up with his. That is when Stalker and Snake Eyes really got my interest. He'd help me make the character selections over the next couple of years or point out when a gas station had them. Every once in a great while we'd set them all up and fight each other in mammoth entire house battles. The neighborhood kids even got together to have a giant Joes vs Star Wars battle that raged on for days.

While other toys and interests came and went I always kept the Joes.

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Well, mine started before the 80's. My mother and father didn't have much money and my brother and I got a lot of hand me down toys. There was a guy who's son was in high school and he gave us all of his 12 inch Joes and playsets. (there were a lot.) I was unfamiliar with them but they were still cool to play with. I didn't get my first 3 3/4 joes until the 80's and my first one was Grunt and my brothers was Snake eyes. We used to play with them all the time. Our treat was to go to Sears once a month and get 1 Joe. (I think they were 1.99 or 2.99) Whenever my brother and I got money, we went to the Ben Franklin and bought a Star Wars figure or a GI Joe. (I think Greedo is still in a plastic coffin buried in my old house's back yard.) As time went on my brother and I amassed several figures barely any vehicles though. We would run home and watch Transformers and GI Joe after school and then have wars with the Star Wars figures. As I got older, and hit high school...I had a job and bought my own stuff, mostly from garage sales. I had a base and several figures. It's funny really, I still had toys till I was 16 and no one ever said anything...the kids in school or the girls I dated. Anyway, I gave everything to a little kid who had no toys what so ever. I was 17 at the time and he loved GI Joe...So I gave him everything. I would casually but a figure or two for myself if I thought they were cool, but never really got into it again until much later when the power of E-bay showed up. I saw everything I used to have and never had and went through a new kid phase.

My Favorite character was always Law and Order because he has my first name and middle initial on his file card.

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Mine started right at the beginning of Real American Hero. I had gotten sick and on the way home from the doctor my mom stopped at Woolworth. We had one of those back then. While looking at the toys I saw the full setup of G.I.Joe figures just put out. I was already a fan of Star Wars and had several of those, but now here's a military guy the same size as Star Wars! So naturally I wanted them and the price wasn't bad so my mom got me 1 of each. It was probably a week or so later that I found all the vehicles at Montgomery Wards (back when they had toys and were open).

I saw the comercial on tv for the comic. I thought it was a cartoon that was about to air, but then I saw "Marvel Comics". At that time I was getting Spiderman and a few others so I began to look for G.I.Joe. I used to get my comics at a drug store back then and I never saw issue #1. Finally I did find issue #2. I must have read that comic 100 times. It was falling a part before I found issue #6. From there on I was able to find the rest. I did get to go back and get the ones I missed when I finally found a comic store in town.

Beyond that I've been with G.I.Joe all these years. I get into other properties, but none like G.I.Joe. That's always #1 on my list. MASK and Transformers I guess are interchangable for 2nd and 3rd. 4th would probably be Centurions with He-Man in 5th. Then whatever else falls behind that.

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Being born in '85 I was definitely a late-comer to Joe. However, my brothers had a STUN, Snow Cat, Silver Mirage, and Devilfish along with Footloose, Frostbite, Iceberg, Barbeque, Dr. Mindbender, and the Cobra La three pack. Since I didn't have any references I had to figure what who did what and had what accesories, so Barbeque became a diver and piloted the Devilfish because his colors were almost a perfect match, and the airfoil backpack that came with the Silver Mirage became a jetpack, in the same vein as the JUMP. My mom had taped GI Joe: The Movie when it was shown on tv, so I religiously watched that. I just watched the intro to the movie again last night on YouTube, smiling the whole time.

My first figure was a mail-away Lifeline from Kellogg's Rice Krispies, who became the pilot for the one of the helicopters (I can't remember what it is....the pilot seats were in teh back, and I remember there being a winch....anyone know?) I was borrowing from a friend. I also borrowed Heavy Duty, and the weird vehicle that launched the glider. My first Joe vehicles was the FANG II, which I still think is a great design, and much more practical than the first FANG. Around this time I also found an original Alley Viper at the beach, but I had no idea who he was, so I made him Cobra Commander.

For Christmas in 1994 I got Beachhead, Stalker, and Flint, along with the Razor-Blade. I quickly integrated them into the rest of my Joes, and had a blast for a few more years. I picked up a Sgt. Savage figure from the Extreme line, but that was my last Joe purchase until JvsC came out. I picked up a Snake Eyes, and Beachhead and was struck all over again. I started reading the reviews on General's Joes, which lead to reading his fan fiction, which led to going to Yojoe.com in order to figure out who all of these characters were! I joined up here and at Joebattlelines.com (back when it was Sgt. Savage.com) and was spending a lot of time and money trying to catch up. I was an avid collector of that all through college, but fell to the wayside when I started my first job. The 25th line came out, and I was enthralled by the designs of the figures enough to pick up Beachhead, Snake Eyes, and Stalker. But I didn't buy anymore figures until the Joe movie got closer to to being released. And here we are today!

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I've told this before, so I'll keep it short! :)

I actually played with my uncle's old 12" GI Joes, without any reall idea what they were, but my real obsession started out almost from the start of Real American Hero. I don't remember if the cartoon or my brother's collection started it...kinda like which came first, the chicken or the egg. Anyway, as an 9 or 10 year old girl it was hard to convince my parents that I wanted GI Joes...so my younger brother got them. It didn't take much for him to get me to play with him when GI Joe was involved and we spent sometimes hours at a time having epic battles all over his bedroom, even when I was in junior high. :shifty: Every time we played we'd start by taking turns picking figures...I don't think my brother ever got to play with his Shipwreck. See, he always called Duke first (until he got Snow Job) and I always called Shipwreck first. :-) Somehow I always ended up with Shipwreck, Breaker and Clutch. When I was 12 or 13, I even drew a picture of Shipwreck, which I still have. I remember sometimes make excuses to go right home after school instead of to a friend's house, just so I could watch GI Joe. Eventually when I felt like I had to hide my obsession from my friends I figured it was time to give it a rest...

Flash forward maybe 15 years. I got back into them when my son got a Sigma 6 figure for his birthday. I was more enthralled with it than he was! I got online to see if GI Joe was really indeed alive and kicking and realized all I'd missed! I felt the old obsession resurfacing and began a mad search to find a Sigma 6 version of Shipwreck...that's when I found out that people (perfectly normal, well-adjusted adults even) customize GI Joes. Oh the wonder! LOL! So the obsession was reborn. Now I'm old enough to not care who looks at me funny because I like toys. :rotfl: Never had my own GI Joes growing up. Now I do. :) Occasionally I share with my son. LOL.

My first GI Joe figure: 1984 Shipwreck (go figure)
My first GI Joe vehicle: 1984 SHARC (which my brother never had)

My collection is small and probably will remain so. Out of a total of six 3.75" figures, four of them are Shipwreck....

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I was a Star Wars kid when Joe first came out in 1982, but since I was all caught up on SW, I needed something to fill my toy needs. Was with my mom in K-Mart and saw the Eagle Force figure's(2inch die cast figures), so I wanted those, but mom said no. My dad who was a Drill Sgt, said he would take me back once he got off from work. Well, by the time I got back, all the Eagle Force figure's were gone and as I was leaving the toy aisle, a new kinda figure caught my eye. As I got close it was Zap(only Joe figure left) and I was immidiately hooked(had to run back outside to get more cash from dad who was waiting in the car). A few days later while in the Shopette, the Joe comic debuted and I was really hooked by that. Shortly after that, my first vehicle was the RAM cycle.

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I have some vague memories of either my brother and I owning a gung ho and destro. At that time, it would have been around 1983 while living in Chandler, A (for anyone living in the valley now, this is when Chandler was really small, and still had dirt roads in alot of places). At that time, I was a Star Wars and He-Man kid. Mostly He-Man post 1983. I don't recall being heavily into Joe until late 84-85, after seeing what was probably Revenge of Cobra on TV. Was hooked after that, and the next several Christmas Day's bought many a Joe. I remember probably the best Christmas was the '85 one, I got all the dreadnoks except Torch, a Skystriker, a Mauler, Awe striker.. Almost all of the 85 line and some of the 84. I remember playing constantly with Blowtorch and Recondo, and afterwards Shipwreck.. Joes were so cheap then it wasn't anything for a parent to pick up a Joe if you were out shopping, most places had them for 2.79.
In 86 I got the conquest, and TTT, and most of that year too. Not as many vehicles. The following year the "big" gift was a MCC for me and my brother to share. More joes to follow, I remember a year where I got some IG items, my brother got a DEMON. I wanted that. I remember getting a Rage, Mean Dog...I can still remember where and when I got certain items just by looking at them. Joe was something every kid had, even the ones that were not into it or grew out of toys early ( I still payed with toys in 8th grade, I know some kids stopped really playing with toy in 5th-6th grade, but I wasn't into sports like them).
I remember being upset a bit when there were no new cartoons after the movie, which I didn't know existed until I was sick at home from school and caught part 3 of the movie on tv. I was "sick" the next two days as well. ;-).
Was very pumped for Operation Dragonfly! Even being in 6th or 7th grade I could tell it wasn't as polished, and that first year DIC was on, it had some crappy morning time slot so I rarely saw it. When it was moved to the Afternoon block the following season, I was able to catch most of the episodes. Didn't really care for it, other than the excitement to see the new figures in animated form.
I didn't pick up any of the comics until around issue 90, which I then went and started a back issue collection. I like the comic, but didn't like some of the portrayals' of the characters compared to the cartoon. Continued collecting the toys (though very sparingly after 1992, didn't like alot of the colors) and comics until the comic was canceled. Some of the last figures I remember getting retail were the ninja force bike, nija force Scarlett, CG (yellow faceplate one) and I got Iceberg and Alley Viper (yellow version) as the last Christmas Joes I would get for several years.
Most of what I had sat in boxes through highschool, until the new Star wars figures were released and I was buying them off and on. I was able to score some really hard to find ones (short saber long tray kind of crap) and traded about 20 carded figures for his entire ARAH collection (which was MASSIVE and MINT!) It was all 82-87 stuff, all of which I still have today. I mean I must have bought home like 8 giant black trash bags full of stuff, spread it out on the living room floor (which I am sure annoyed my mom) and took a couple of days to sort it all out.
About a year later I moved out, and on my own. That collection sat in boxes until I was able to display it, and then kept growing and growing once the line relaunched in 98. I ended up with a 2 bedroom apartment and one room was all GI Joe, and I went full bore for a couple of years. I bought everything Joe. It was ridiculous. After I bought my first house, I sold alot of the extra's and doubles, and became a bit more picky with what I purchased. I went full bore again with the 25th (got hooked) and became picky again with RoC. I like RoC since it's not a really big nostalgia kick but enough cool things to keep me interested in the line. Still very much a Joe Fan, still have a Joe room, have a Joe themed car, and probably have way too much Joes still. When people ask why I spend my money on them, I usually tell them it's better than spending it on drugs. Hell, I don't make a ton of money, I spend money on toys, and I still have more money at the end of the day than people that ask me that question. Makes me wonder what they blow all their money on!

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