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Creators
George Lucas - Star Wars 39%  39%  [ 9 ]
Gene Rodenberry - Star Trek 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
Larry Hama - G.I.*JOE 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Stan Lee - Marvel 39%  39%  [ 9 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Creators
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:19 am 
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Hard choice for me, because while I enjoy the SW universe, I only enjoy the part of it that was taken by others and enchanced, like what Dark Horse did with their run of Republic and Knights of the Old Republic. Their stories were to me anyway far more enjoyable than the movies. Even the Clone Wars on CN formerly had much deeper and engaging stories than the movies.

With Marvel, there were lines I enjoyed and lines that made me cringe. Not that the writing was so bad, but I have never been a fan of the resurrection highway of the past two decades...killed off/fans scream/resurrection. That gets very old. Cross-overs had to be well done for me to even get into them. They had to make some sort of sense, not just an unlikely random meeting. I have to agree with Marvel using real cities made it something I could relate to more. Especially having been born and raised in NYC. It was easy to get into Spiderman.

GIJOE and Trek to me had too many status quos. It seemed as if nothing profound was really achieved until Deep Space Nine. Just exploration, then an ass kicking, then revenge, then more exploration.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:04 pm 
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Out of the poll, I have to say Lucas had the bigger vision. Even though lots of other people helped with that vision, he was the captain of that ship and it succeeded or failed based on choices he made.

Tolkien is missing. Everything we think of with dragons and sorcery extends from his work.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:33 pm 
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pluv wrote:
Tolkien is missing. Everything we think of with dragons and sorcery extends from his work.


Affirmative... the entire fantasy genre wouldn't exist in it's current form without Tolkien. You could kind of make the claim that sci-fi wouldn't be what it is today without Lucas, but I don't think it would hold up.

In the end I chose Star Trek because Terry Farrell is hot.

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 Post subject: Re: Creators
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:59 pm 
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Wowboy wrote:
pluv wrote:
Tolkien is missing. Everything we think of with dragons and sorcery extends from his work.


Affirmative... the entire fantasy genre wouldn't exist in it's current form without Tolkien. You could kind of make the claim that sci-fi wouldn't be what it is today without Lucas, but I don't think it would hold up.


Agreed.

Sci Fi was well on its way to what it became before Lucas. Remember, before Star Trek started sucking some fun out of sci fi, we had Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers...someone would've stepped back from the socio-politically agendized trend toward the gee-whiz serial qualities that drove Lucas' vision.

But without Tolkein, the fantasy genre based on all those old world myths would be pretty different today.

We might still have gotten Conan the Barbarian, but The rest of those ideas and elements would probably have been relegated to a sub-genre under the horror umbrella thanks to the influence of Lovecraft.

I don't think C.S. Lewis' work would read the way it does without the influence of knowing Tolkein while writing and it almost surely wouldn't have been as widely read.


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 Post subject: Re: Creators
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:45 pm 
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Wowboy wrote:
pluv wrote:
Tolkien is missing. Everything we think of with dragons and sorcery extends from his work.


Affirmative... the entire fantasy genre wouldn't exist in it's current form without Tolkien.

that is 100% true, JRR Tolkien was the creative visionary to rule all other visionaries...

how is the world of Middle-Earth not an option for this poll? I certainly can't/won't vote for any of the availible four options no matter how much I love GIJoe and Marvel.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:29 pm 
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Meh, Tolkien stole everything from Conan and Wagner's Ring of the Nibelungenleid.




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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:55 am 
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night force cynic wrote:
How is the world of Middle-Earth not an option for this poll?


I forgot to add him. I was thinking of who the creators of some great worlds were and thought of him, I just forgot to add him when I got around to making the poll

pluv wrote:
Tolkien is missing. Everything we think of with dragons and sorcery extends from his work.


Anything you can do about that, oh fearless leader?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:37 am 
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Suburbanator wrote:
night force cynic wrote:
How is the world of Middle-Earth not an option for this poll?


I forgot to add him. I was thinking of who the creators of some great worlds were and thought of him, I just forgot to add him when I got around to making the poll

pluv wrote:
Tolkien is missing. Everything we think of with dragons and sorcery extends from his work.


Anything you can do about that, oh fearless leader?
Not once a polled gets a vote. You'd have to restart the vote. I think the write-in vote is an easier option.

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