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 Post subject: Re: BBTS has Eaglehawk up for preorder
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:59 pm 
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There is no reason why they should not be able to release figures in cases of a single type to online retailers so figures that are highly sought after can be readily found and purchased. The online retailers will tell them which ones are sought after by ordering that figure in quantity.

I see two issues with this approach:

1. The end result in cases like this is that some figures will never get made. There won't be enough overall demand to justify the production of certain figures. And, more often than not, those are the figures that are geared towards collectors. So, you would end up with more cases of major characters over and over again.

2. This actually leads to a more boom or bust situation. If dealers get it wrong and order a fig that, for whatever reason, doesn't click with collectors, they're screwed. There's not 5 other figures in the case they can sell. Think how many times you've seen a figure that looked awesome in preliminary photos but was incredibly disappointing once you got it in hand. If that's the only stock a dealer got, they're stuck with case after case of unsold figures instead of a smaller subset of a diverse case.



Well I'm not sure what the answer is, but when the stores around me (Target, Walmart, TRU, and Dollar General)either don't get any stock, or get one shipment then never restock, and I am forced to pay a higher price online or drive many miles to check stores in other areas, there is something seriously wrong with the way Hasbro distributes its product. I'm sure there are plenty of people like me out there just wishing Hasbro would give me a chance to buy their product at retail prices.

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 Post subject: Re: BBTS has Eaglehawk up for preorder
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:26 pm 
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It's such a nice feeling knowing that I don't have to do that. I used to drive all over and look all over online. Now if I don't see a thing, I can sleep knowing its not the end of the world.

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 Post subject: Re: BBTS has Eaglehawk up for preorder
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:52 pm 
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I think I'm with you now lance. Two years of hunting nonexistent toys has soured me. I'm gonna concentrate on my customs. If I see a figure or vehicle I like at a store I'll buy it. I guess I'm not cut out for the collecting game.

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What you need to do is develop a network of fellow collectors who can help you find stuff and won't raise the price on you. This is how I've found a majority of pre-Retaliation stuff, and some MU stuff since I never find crap around here.

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 Post subject: Re: BBTS has Eaglehawk up for preorder
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:07 pm 
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I'm tempted to actually preorder one. Since Hasbro can't seem to put out enough product to even allow me to buy one of each figure at retail.



Not Hasbro's fault. You should have seen DePriest at con in the Hasbro booth on his phone at con trying to get to the bottom of some distro issues in real time, in front of a group of guys. I just kind of wandered into the conversation so I don't know how it came up. But he said he had no idea that certain waves or certain figures were not showing up in places as they should have. Somewhere between the factory and then the warehouses, with the retail stores to top it off.... there's too many hands involved and then too many circumstances backing everything up. Not to mention that the film moving around made things worse. It seems to be like a domino effect that starts at both ends. Retailers make some decisions which hold things up or just simply keep things out of stores and then the film gets three release dates on the other end... and then in the middle the warehouses and distro have to do what it is they do.


I have an MBA and am of the opinion that a company is responsible for everything that happens with its product. If they have distribution problems, they need to take control and fix those problems. And its not just the Retaliation delay debacle and toy line, its the Dollar General line as well. I spent so much time tracking down wave 1 to get a full set, I'm not doing it again with wave 2. If they want my money they need to make it easier to find their product without resorting to ebay.


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I have to admit, after the Convention I saw more Dollar General figures out. I've gotten a ton of Wave 1 and probably 3+ of Wave 2.

On the other hand, I have yet to see a second Dark Ninja, Firefly, of Lady Jaye on the shelves...

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 Post subject: Re: BBTS has Eaglehawk up for preorder
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:15 pm 
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DarkJedi wrote:
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I have to admit, after the Convention I saw more Dollar General figures out. I've gotten a ton of Wave 1 and probably 3+ of Wave 2.

On the other hand, I have yet to see a second Dark Ninja, Firefly, of Lady Jaye on the shelves...


These are not quotes of mine. I even searched my posts to make sure I wasn't going crazy. I have only ever laid eyes on 2 of the wave 2 dollar general figures. I agree wave 1 came out more, but I already traded for a bunch of those on here so it didn't do me much good. I bought some to try and stimulate a wave 2 delivery though.

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:16 pm 
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Hasbro doesn't control distribution to stores.


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 Post subject: Re: BBTS has Eaglehawk up for preorder
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:19 pm 
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Not sure what is going on with quote. I hit thwe quote option for your 4:59 PM post. My post has got stuff in it that isn't me too.

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:23 pm 
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DarkJedi wrote:
Not sure what is going on with quote. I hit thwe quote option for your 4:59 PM post. My post has got stuff in it that isn't me too.



The machines are waking up and trying to start trouble.

I'm just glad I'm not insane. It seriously had me questioning myself....I was thinking, Did I ever write that? Why would I have written that?

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 Post subject: Re: BBTS has Eaglehawk up for preorder
PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:54 pm 
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Wow, shipping was only $10.99 for 2. That is really good.

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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:41 am 
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FireFox91 wrote:
Wow, shipping was only $10.99 for 2. That is really good.
That's nice, and they have their own box-making ability for the larger boxes, and cool air-bag sheets, all standard.


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 Post subject: Re: BBTS has Eaglehawk up for preorder
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:47 am 
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Crosshair wrote:
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I'll give this advice 'til I'm blue in the face, but order from online retailers (especially GI Joe promoting online retailers like SmallJoes and Kokomo Toys) if you're at all concerned about not finding figures and vehicles in stores . The amount of time you save on driving around being disappointed more than makes up for the shipping costs (and frankly shipping has been cheaper than gas lately, so it's a double win.)


I always remind myself of the time and energy spent running around to stores in the mid-2000's hoping to catch certain products. (With this pre-order, we can kind of shop locally, too.) No matter where or when the Eaglehawk shows up, I am pretty certain that I can draw at least a 60-mile radius around me where there's only one location that will have it; and I just pre-ordered it.


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Hasbro doesn't control distribution to stores.



They also don't have any control over HTS. They also can't force online retailers to order enough product to keep prices level with stores like Target and Walmart. It's simply not how the world of distribution works.

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......so how 'bout that classic looking helicopter toy, huh?


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......so how 'bout that classic looking helicopter toy, huh?



I had a lot of fun with it. And I hope that it does well enough to warrant more iconic resurrections.

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