Performing some tread necromancy to briong this back in light of a similiar thread.

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So, why don't the various members of the board combine their extraordinary skills and show up next year with all of these as customs?

Make it a full on joecustoms sponsored year long custom event...

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Is anyone still interested in seeing the third year of product I came up with and the cartoon pitch?

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Yes!

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Cool, I'll write everything up this weekend

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Friends wanted to know what I think can be done about the failing dying line of GI joe 3 3/4 toys. this is what I said: I don't know much. start with trying cheaper plastics (like Hemp or non petro based plastics) then revive the joe line by doing commercials on nic and the hub. further the want for joes by bringing back the points system collect points to get special troopers or vehicles (plus shipping) then I had a wonderful idea, a very basic vehicle for land sea and air, and...add on packs to customize the vehicles (interactive right?) add a microchip or USB interface to the vehicles (something that can come off for play) and what you do to the vehicle (upgrades) shows on line and a printable version of what the vehicle can do and a custom name for the vehicle) later down the line do the same for troopers. bring back the glory days of the Flagg terror drome and defiant (still using cheaper plastics) trash the retaliation lines 5 points and crappy paint bring back the POC style (re4 I hope is like this) and lastly do an online poll of older (using sites like yojoe.com) of what vehicle to bring back. drop the bs (foam swords nerf guns etc) and make MORE MOVIES and bring back the Renegades cartoon. oh and they can hire me.....

also added this later..... keep it 3 3/4 do as I advised, shelve the wanabe 12's keep the nice ones, bring back "the Renegades" more movies (Faster, eh?) dump star wars 3 3/4 due those in 6" (the Black Line, very collector) bring in the vehicles that were shown. bring the figures that were shown, a points collection system with a figure and a vehicle to "Buy" with the points (super, etc) squeeze the troops into a game, on the topic of an upgradable vehicle, add them to the game as well (upgrades you buy for the toy goes into your online file....) and make a stand alone game like Star wars MMORPG, and join as Cobra, or GI joe, same with the vehicles, give two sets of decals (nothing outlandish, basic set with joe or cobra insignia) leaving room for companies like Cobrastickers.com. Make a dedicated site for Joes, updating the current one, and making it so people like me who live in the boondocks, have access to the new additions KICK WALMART TO THE CURB, along with ROSS and TJ-Max, dedicate Target and Toys r us as the ONLY provider, shipping would be cheaper, on that note ship more then one figure at a time (ugh how many snow destros did they produce?) make a couple more mechs (mine are SO lonely.) dump the iron man avengers line until the next movie, work with companies like Elite Forces and WPK, produce a "Current Vehicle Line" with WPK and Sci-Fi line through GI joe (Hiss, and the other exotics) like I said Hasbro, give me a call, I could so do this for a living.

That's a great idea! I love it.

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Year 3!

After the success of the first 2 years of product, the budget for the line goes up and more newly sculpted/tooled parts are allotted! The true leader of the evil faction is revealed and a new theme is added to the line.


Basic Figures (MSRP $8.99)

Wave 5

Heroes

Carry forwards are 2nd version Joe Colton and Agent Faces, and Jane Colton returns with new green uniform running change.

Clutch (Adventure Team Mechanic)- Renegades Tunnel Rat body, new head (or Retaliation Tread Ripper pilot head to save $), new opening toolbox accessory (yellow w/large AT logo on lid) with removable tools (6 or so) in dark gray, new welding mask, Dreadnok Torch backpack w/new welding tool accessory, 4 Techno-Viper cones (yellow w/ red/black AT logos). Deco would be tan overalls, white shirt w/AT logo on left breast (tan hat w/AT logo if using Ret head).

Dr. Link Talbot (Wild Animal Specialist)- Retaliation 3pk Roadblock body, new head, 25A Doc flaregun, Resolute Scarlett rifle (would be tranq rifle), new vet medkit backpack (yellow wAT logo on lid) w/opening lid, ROC Crimson Neo Viper snake + clear box, 3-5 newly sculpted animals (preferably mammals). Deco would be tan pants, grey top, "leather" boots/belt/harness.

Mike Powers (Adventure Scientist)- 25A Viper torso, new head, ROC Cobra Commander legs, 25A Cobra Trooper arms, ROC Rex Lewis labcoat, new gray computer accessory, new gray lab table accessory (would be unassembled in package), 4 VvV Dr. Mindbender test tubes in clear colors (blue, red, yellow, green) w/new gray test tube rack accessory. Deco would be white shirt, white labcoat w/AT logo on left breast, dark gray pants, brown shoes.


Villians

Carry forwards are Firefly, Major Bludd, and Doctor X, and Kwinn returns with new OD green uniform running change.

Miles Mayhem (Evil Mastermind)- New torso and head, ROC Destro arms and legs, new helmet resembling his classic 1st release mask, Indiana Jones line Luger and swagger stick. Deco would be 80's carftoon accurate - dark blue uniform w/multicolored medals on chest, pruple/black villian logo on left arm and gold braid on shoulder, helmet would be dark blue w/dark red faceplate.

Crimson Lynx (Evil Spy)- New female torso and head, masked Retaliation Jinx head for alternate masked look, ROC Helix arms and legs, new black backpack with opening flap, new grapple gun w/removable hook and connected string (NOT spring-loaded!), Retaliation Joe Trooper knives and holster in black, Retaliation (sled) Firefly small pistol and holster in black. Deco would be black bodysuit w/purple trim and villian logo on left arm.


Wave 6

Heroes
Carry forwards are 2nd version Jane Colton, and Clutch.

Spooky (Paranormal Adventurer) - Retaliation Agent Mouse body, new head, new camraman style vest, new black video camera accessory, 25A Lady Jaye camera (silver w/brown strap), ROC laptop (black w/ AT logo on lid), new silver digital camera accessory, new red camera bag accessory w/opening top to store cameras and laptop.. Deco would be gray jumpsuit, red vest w/large AT logo on back, black shoes.

Payload (Space Adventurer)- Retaliation Sgt. Airborne/Data-Viper body, new head, new helmet, new chest harness for helmet to attach to, new EVA backpack. Deco would be white uniform with AT logo on left arm, light gray helmet/harness/backpack/gloves/boots. Helmet would have glossy gold faceplate.

Pathfinder (Forest Adventurer)- Concept Case Flint body, new head, ROC Pit Commando hat in black, new vest, modern recreation of original figure's weedcutter w/hose, 25A Ripper backpack in gray, 25A O13 sidearm in black, 25A Buzzer chainsaw in gray/silver, ROC Helix machetes in same gray as backpack (2).

Villians

2nd Bludd, 2nd Kwinn, Miles Mayhem and Crimson Lynx would be carry forwards and Crystal Ball returns to the line.

Professor Von Darque (Seeker Of Paranormal Secrets!)- ROC suited Destro body, new head, new purple cape, new black/gold cane accessory, new brown/gold ancient tome accessory, Resolute Cobra Commander pistol in silver. Deco would be black suit, purple tie, gloss black shoes.


Mission Packs (carded accessory sets MSRP $5.99)
"The Lost City Of Gold!" and "Easter Island Encounter!" return to retail with 4 new sets being added.

"Satellite Down!!"- "The Evil Paochers are trying to capture a top secret defense satellite that crashed in the remote South American jungle and it's up to the Adventure Team to stop them!". Brand new light gray/gold/black satellite accessory, Resoulte Cobra Soldier backpack in black, Outback vest in dark gray, Cobra Island Recondo hat in brown, Bludd pith helmet in brown, Shadow Tracker curved knives in black/silver (2).

"Giant Ant Encounter!"- "Deep in the jungle, the AdventureTeam is attacked by a species of previously undiscoverd gigantic ants!". Ten of the 12" Indiana Jones line Col Dovchenko ants in creepy transparent red w/black eyes and markings on their backs/legs.

"Attack Of The Goblins!"- "In The backwoods of Kentucky, the Adventure Team encounters strange visitors from another world!". Six "Kentucky Goblins" (small creatures with greenish skin and large eyes and ears wearing silver spacesuits)-3 each of 2 different sculpts. Goblins will range from 2" to 2 1/2" in height and have 5pt articulation as they will be very slender.

"Signal From Space!"- "The Adventure Team receives strange signals from the depths of space, are they from friends or foes?" Brand new radio telescope accessory (four 3" dish quarters that will assemble to make a full dish, four 1 3/4" girder supports, 2" squarish base)- will be quite large but fit unassembled in the package, Eaglehawk headset, ROC laptop in gray w/AT logo on lid.


Deluxe Mission Packs (MSRP $12.99)

"Invasion Of The Saucermen!"- "Strange lights have been seen in the skies all across the world and reports of little green men roaming the countryside are flooding into the Adventure Team Headquarters!" . Brand new, fully articulated "Gray" alien figure (approx. 2 3/4" tall- dark gray skin and silver jumpsuit w/balck trim) w/silver accessories (probe and data tablet), new gray and clear containment unit, Best Of The 80's DVD Set television camera and stand, new gray handheld scanner device, recolored cameras from Spooky.

"Haunted Encounter!"- "The Adventure Team investigates strange goings on at the supposedly haunted Bixby Mansion!". Brand new, fully articulated Ghost (gaunt figure in historical clothes) figure in clear plastic w/glow-in-the-dark oversprays, 2 brand new tech-looking backpacks w/hoses going to brand new ghost blasting rifles, brand new circular tech base w/transparent "lightning arcs" that can be attached to the Gohst's wrists and ankles and suspend it an inch or so above the base, same new gray scanner from "Saucermen" set and recolors of Spooky's cameras.

"The Abominable Snowman!"- "High in the snowy mountains, the Adventure Team encounters the fearsome Yeti!". Brand new fully articulated 5 1/2" tall Yeti figure, 2 sets of 25A Snow Job ski gear (skis/poles/backpacks) in yellow.

"Beware...Bigfoot!"- "In the American Northwest, the Adventrue Team searches for the elusive forest creature!". Redeco of the Yeti in brown, 2 ROC Pit Commando hats in dark green, 2 Outback vests in dark green. Resolute Scarlett rifle, Spooky video camera in black.

"Emmissary Of The Lunatrix!"- "It came from beyond the stars with a message from it's masters...a message that might spell DOOM for the Earth!". Brand new fully articulated Alien figure (3 1/4" tall, long neck, 4 arms, tail), brand new organic-looking "space pod" w/opening lid (figure and accessories fit inside) in sickly green, brand new crystal shard cluster in transparent pale blue (has removable center shard), organic-looking staff in same green as pod,

"Search For The Mummy's Tomb!"- "In the shifting desert sands, the Adventure Team encounters an ancient threat!". Brand new fully articulated Mummy, brand new opening gold sarcophogas accessory, 3 brand new canopic jar accessories, gold ankh-staff and sword for mummy, gold/purple headress for mummy, Indiana Jones line Sallah torch and shovel.



Basic Vehicles (MSRP $12.99)
Reissues of Adventure Hawk, Gator, Dolphin and Poacher Buggy as Deluxe Mission Packs take budget for new tooling.


Deluxe Vehicle (MSRP $39.99)

Adventure Team Capsule - Brand new vehicle for Payload to pilot. Includes small shuttle and boosters. Would be 1-man shuttle w/small opening rear cargo area and 2 boosters that attach under each wing. Cargo area would have articulated arm and satellite accessory. Shuttle would be light gray w/AT logos on wings and tail stabilizer. Boosters would be burnt orange or copper w/black exhausts and have AT logos on them. This would be about the same size overall as the new Eagelhawk.


Store Exclusive 2pks (MSRP $14.99)

Joe Colton vs. Skunkape (Walmart)- Joe- Redeco of Colton with woodland camo pants and green shirt w/ AT logo on left sleeve, black belt/shoes. Retaliation Scarlett rifle in brown, ROC Pit Commando hat in same green as shirt.
Skunkape- redeco of Yeti/Bigfoot in black w/white stripe down back.

Outback Vs. The Gatorman (Toys R us)- Outback- reissue with brown "mud stains" on bottom of pantlegs, light green shirt w/AT logo on left sleeve, brown belt/shoes. Resolute Scarlett rifle in green, Shadow Tracker knife in black/silver, 25A Televiper vest in dark green.
Gatorman- brand new fully articulated 4 1/2" figure of the purported reptilian humanoid cryptid. Dark green deco w/yellow eyes (was originally slated to be released as a Deluxe Mission Pack figure but was costed out of the assortment, rescued from "unproduced" status for this exclusive- Gyre-Viper has original lime green unreleased version in his collection).

Payload vs. The Invader (Target)- Payload- redeco of Payload in silver suit with dark metallic gray trim and accessories.
The Invader- redeco of "Gray" from Deluxe Mission Pack with greenish gray skin, dark metallic gray jumpsuit w/glow-in-the-dark trim, pale gray probe and tablet accessories, new lasergun accessory in same pale gray.

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I'll do the end of the line and the cartoon pitch tomorrow

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Year 4: The End Of The Line!

The year is split between the ongoing sci-fi story started in the previous year and a return to the traditional adventure theme. Hasbro fills in some much needed holes in the line before putting this series to rest.

Wave 7

Heroes
Spooky, Payload and Mike Powers are carry forwards, Recondo and Wild Bill return to retail.

Robojoe (Robotic Adventurer)- ROC Accelerator Suit Ripcord body except for lower left arm, new head, new lower left arm with removable forearm, 3 new replacement lower left arms (chainsaw, sonic cannon, missile launcher w/4 removable missiles). Deco would be black under suit with burnt orange "hard" armor parts and AT logo on left breast armor. New helmet in burnt orange and new jetpack in burnt orange w/AT logo on fuel tank.


Villians
Baron Von Dargue and Miles Mayhem are carry forwards.

Lobotomaxx (Evil Alien Leader!)- brand new figure, 4 1/2" tall with full articulation and bendy tail/neck (neck has ball joints on bottom at torso and at head on top). Deco is faithful to original figure. Accessories are brand new organic-looking laser rifle + pistol in pale grey, new knife and sword with organic-looking handles in pale gray, ornate organic-looking staff in pale gold.

Predacon (Evil Alien Hunter!)- brand new figure, 4 1/4" tall with full articulation including all 4 arms. Deco is faithful to original figure. Accessories are brand new organic-looking laser pistols (2) and rifle in pale bronze, new knives with organic-looking handles (2) in pale bronze, Shadow Tracker spear in pale bronze.

Carcass (Evil Alien Brute!)- brand new figure, 4 1/4" tall with full articulation and bendy arms (arms will have ball jointed shoulders and swivel wrists) and articulated grasping "ribs" over a transparent torso front. Deco will be faithful to original figure. Accessories are brand new organic-looking laser pistol and new knife with organic-looking handle in pale silver.

Lunatrix Enforcer (Evil Alien Warrior!)- brand new figure, 3 3/4" tall with full articulation. Design would be heavily (organic-looking) armored humanoid body w/slightly larger than average head (would have rearward swept pointy ears and snake-like eyes). Deco is sickly green undersuit with bronze armor - will have black wash over figure (except head which has gray skin and red eyes) to bring out detail. New organic-looking helmet/laser rifle/laser pistol/backpack in same pale bronze w/wash as armor. This would be the first troop builder figure of the line.



Wave 8

Heroes
Greatest Hits Assortment- original deco Joe Colton, original deco Jane Colton, Joe Colton Jr., Shipwreck, Spirit Iron Knife and Snowjob return to retail.

Villians
Lobotomaxx, Carcass and Predacon return in running change to their Mexican decos, rest of the wave are cartoon accurate troopers to fill holes in lineup.

Plunderer (Evil Henchman!)- Kwinn body, Resolute Cobra Soldier head. Deco would be dark gray uniform w/purple villian logo on left arm, black boots/belt, purple facemask. Accessories would be Stinger AK-47 in gray, Bludd pith in black, Resolute Cobra Trooper backpack in black, 25A Cobra Officer webgear in black w/purple shoulderstrap pads.

Arctic Plunderer (Evil Harsh Environment Henchman!)- 25A Arctic Snake Eyes body, Resolute Cobra Soldier head. Deco would be dark gray uniform w/purple villian logo on left arm, black boots/belt, purple mask. Accessories would be ROC Ice Viper wrapped rifle in black w/dark gray wrap, new hat with "fur" trim in black w/dark gray trim, 25A Snow Serpent backpack/snow shoes in black, 25A Snow Serpent Mortar in silver.

Aquatic Plunderer (Evil Underwater Henchman!)- 25A Torpedo reissue in purple with black trim and center of torso (has purple villian logo in center of chest). All accessories from 25A Torpedo reissued in black (backpack has removable purple tanks).


Mission Packs (carded accessory sets MSRP $5.99)
"Villian Arsenal!", "Viral Emergency!" and "High Flying Evil!" return to retail.

"Weapons Of The Lunatrix!"- "The Evil Lunatrix Empire utilizes a deadly arsenal of advanced weaponry in their battle to enslave the Earth!". Redecos of all existing Lunatrix pistols/rifles/knives/swords/staffs in sickly green (same color as pod from "Emissary Of The Lunatrix!" set), "Emmissary" set crystal cluster in translucent orange,.

"Mongolian Deathworm!"- "The Adventure Team discovers a deadly cryptid while lost in a far off desert!". Brand new 3" long Mongolian Deathworm creature (articulated tri-jaws), Bludd pith in yellow (2), 25A Vamp shovel in gray, Shadow Tracker net in brown.

"Deep Sea Danger!"- "The Evil Plunderers attack the Adventure Team's boat from deep in the depths!". ROC Eel spring loaded missile launcher w/ missile (2 each) in black w/purple missile and villian logos on sides of hulls, Cobra Island Wet Suit hydro sled and flashlight in black (2 each), Roc Eel spearguns in black (2).


Deluxe Mission Packs (MSRP $12.99)
"Invasion Of The Saucermen!", "Emmissary Of The Lunatrix!" and "Search For The Mummy's Tomb!" carry forward with 3 new sets being added.

"Save The Tiger!"- "The Evil Poachers have captured a rare white tiger, can the Adventure Team rescue it before it's too late?" . Brand new, fully articulated 6" long tiger action figure (white w/black markings and yellow eyes), brand new cage accessory (breaks down into 6 pieces to lay flat in package), IJ line whips (1 unfurled and one coiled) in black, Gnawgahyde hat in brown w/purple band.

"Alien Abduction!"- "The Invaders have abducted a member of the Adventure Team, can he escape his alien captors?". Redeco of the "Gray" with light gray skin and white spacesuit w/lime green trim, brand new organic-looking "capture pod" (flexy transparent vinyl for gross "real feel" w/slit in middle that abducted figure can be squeezed inside) in sickly tan w/green oversprays, probe and tablet accessories in black.

"Temple Of The Snake!"- "Deep in the jungles of Central America, the Adventure Team uncovers the fabled lost Temple Of The Snake!". Brand new 6" tall mini playset of temple altar w/snake carvings all over it and a very familiar looking Cobra motif on top in tan (will have sculpted vines growing up/draped on it painted green), 6" square stone base piece in tan (matching altar, including vines), Cobra head "treasure" in gold (sits on flat area under Cobra motif near top of altar), ROC Rex Lewis Cobra in brown, Shadow Tracker snakes in red (4).


No Basic or Deluxe vehicles in last year.


Store Exclusive 2pks (MSRP $14.99)

Joe Colton vs. Tiger (Walmart)- Joe- Redeco of Colton with orange and black tiger stripe pants and white shirt w/large AT logo on chest, black belt/shoes. Retaliation Scarlett rifle in brown, Recondo hat in black.
Tiger- redeco of white tiger in orange w/black stripes and white underside and paws.

Recondo Vs. Silverback Gorilla(Toys R us)- Recondo- reissue with dark green pants, gray shirt w/AT logo on left breast, brown boots/belt. Resolute Scarlett rifle in green, Recondo hat in same dark green as pants, 25A Gung Ho/Duke backpack in brown.
Silverback Gorilla- brand new fully articulated 4 1/2" gorilla figure. Deco is dark gray w/silvery overspray on back(was originally slated to be released as a Deluxe Mission Pack figure but was costed out of the assortment, rescued from "unproduced" status for this exclusive- Gyre-Viper has original all black unreleased version in his collection).

Croc Master w/ Giant Crocodile (Target)- Croc master- redeco of Croc Master (very dark green "gatorskin" bits and brown pants/mask). Accessories include air tank and pistol in black, whip in dark green.
Giant Crocodile- brand new fully articulated 6" long crocodile figure. Deco is medium green w/red inside mouth, yellowish teeth and eyes (was originally slated to be released as a Deluxe Mission Pack figure but was costed out of the assortment, rescued from "unproduced" status for this exclusive- Gyre-Viper has original dark green unreleased version in his collection).

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Double post, sorry.

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I love your ideas, Spec. I wish they were real.

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Cartoon Outline

Pitch

"Join the intrepid Colton family and their brave friends as they travel the world having adventures and trying to prevent the Evil Poachers from plundering Earth's treasures!"

Overview

Each season would be 13 episodes and air on Saturday mornings.

Episodes would focus on the Colton family members (Joe, Jane, Joe Jr.) and 1 or more supporting Adventure Team member in an exotic locale.

Characters/vehicles/accessories from the toyline would be heavily featured in each episode but would not be shoehorned in just to make kids want the toys, although figures of the Evil Poachers' Plunderer henchmen- appearing in just about every episode of the series- would not be made available until the final year of toy releases.

An episode near the end of the first season in which the Adventure Team finds an entombed UFO underneath a lost temple in Indonesia proves to be very popular with kids and a more science fiction/paranormal slant begins to enter the series.

The second season sees a Halloween special in which Doctor Mindbender unleashes a zombie epidemic in a rural Pennsylvania region in an homage to the film "Night Of The Living Dead".

In the third season, more paranormal stories begin to pop up (7 of the 13 episodes of the season), leading up to the arrival of an Emissary from the Evil Lunatrix Empire, who would be the major antagonists of the fourth and final season. Also of note, this season reveals the Evil Poachers' "mysterious supreme leader", previously seen only in shadow to be Miles Mayhem.

The first 9 episodes of the fourth and final season would be serial with each episode leading into the next, detailing the struggle between the Adventure Team and the Lunatrix Empire. The Evil Poachers would also feature in these stories but in a reduced capacity and ultimately teaming up with the Adventure Team in the ninth episode to push the Lunatrix Empire off of Earth. The last 4 episodes would return to the show's normal adventure stories.

Violence would be minimum with no fatalities and only minimal injuries. Any serious injuries would be treated in a realistic manner and have consequences (i.e. a character that breaks his or her leg will be in a cast and on crutches in a few subsequent episodes).

In episodes dealing with the natural world, real facts would be woven into the story in a non ham-fisted way so as to educate while entertaining the audience.

Vague references to the "Joe Vs. Cobra" storyline would be made during the various seasons (mostly as characters refer to their "past"/"other" job), including some more overt scenes of Joe and Cobra vehicles/characters in a montage when Earth forces are shown resisting the Lunatrix in the final season.

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I really think Hasbro should bring Adventure Team to the 4" line, and use its less militaristic roots as a way to license various properties and likenesses in a "unified" line of sorts.

I mean who wouldn't want Adventure Team Mythbusters and Adventure Team Bruce Lee alongside their GI Joes?

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Still loving this idea. I'd be all over these figures & that cartoon.

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