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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:26 am 
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It's pretty cool for those who really really wanted it but didn't want to do an all in. It's just a little over 200 people away from getting that unlock. That's not really that far off or impossible. The hardest thing is getting people to share the link. I mean yeah there was a little bit of a fiasco over that, but it is true. A lot of people do share the links, but you can see on Facebook how many times it is shared. Rarely do you see more than 5 to 8 shares. Others individually share the links, but all kickstarters, a majority of the people just pledge and forget about it until the last day.

As for the owner of a kickstarter, I don't know the best ways they can promote. It's almost to a point that I wonder if a person were able to get a nationwide tv commercial, how well would that work? Haha. I mean sometimes you see these kickstarters go viral. They get mentioned on the news or some talk show... they are the ones that end up well over a million dollars. Which tells you, all that matters is if you could get the word out there.

Anyway, I went off on a long post there and didn't mean to. I think the art of advertising for kickstarter is an untapped market of it's own.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:59 am 
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Here are the Vigilante "unlock" details:

"You've asked for it, and as a result of the gracious agreement by a majority of our "All-IN!" pledge backers, we are going to make the Badlands Vigilante available to non-"All-IN!" pledges. But wait! Like all good things, this is going to require getting a little dirty.

The Badlands Vigilante will be a "faux" unlock once two requirements are met. The first step towards this unlock is that we must reach 555 pledges or more. For a new pledge to count towards the total for this unlock, it must be at $100 or above. If backers can get these two steps taken care of before the KS campaign is over, then all backers whose pledge level is at $100 or more, will be able to add-on the Badlands Vigilante for $25 each plus combined shipping with your other reward items.

⦁ 555 or more pledges total

⦁ All new pledges must $100 or higher to count towards the total

⦁ Eligible pledges levels are $100 or above before adding the Badlands Vigilante figure"



Eagle force had 595 backers including those that just bought a figure or two. I will be interested to see if this bar can be reached. 555 is a lot harder when it only counts $100 or more from here on out. I wish them luck and hope it doesn't completely implode if they don't get to 555 and don't unlock all the stretch goals.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:17 pm 
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What they could do is make a "classic" Badlands Vigilante as an All-In exclusive--Sharpshooter torso with Fireman legs done in a powder blue/gray.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:23 pm 
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what they could do is quit with all the rigamarole and let people pledge what they want for the products they want. by forcing all these rules and weird stuffs on everything they're just confusing or frustrating their potential customers/investors.

weird.

//haven't backed yet. undecided.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:48 pm 
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concur. I see what they are trying to do, but it's not actually helping. It's a "we've got all the stuffs, so give us all your monies" tone that is just so counter productive. You backers better do your job, but we refuse to make this easy on you. Meh.

And the idea of an all-in exclusive remains so dumb. Dumb for them, I mean. It's standing in the way of their own success. So no, there should not be a replacement All-In exclusive.

Hell, it shouldn't even be called an all-in at this point. I don't think it qualifies.

That being said, while the vigilante they are doing sure looks like a recent movie character, it's at least using mostly pretty common looking parts. If they went with a vintage Lone Ranger design, I'm sure that would get a response from somewhere, legally-speaking. Much more realistic to have the parts needed via other figures, then customize your own thereafter, conceptually at least.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:10 pm 
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I don't want to be all dumbass, but isn't The Lone Ranger a public domain character (as long as they're not specifically copying a disney or dynamite look) ?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:04 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:03 pm 
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joemichaels70 wrote:
I don't want to be all dumbass, but isn't The Lone Ranger a public domain character (as long as they're not specifically copying a disney or dynamite look) ?



No but I think that's a common misconception enough to be googleable.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:00 am 
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well it has funded and has the 5 figure pledge level now, and somehow or other im sure the badlands vigilante will be added as a regular figure before its over.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:35 am 
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MJTanner wrote:
What they could do is make a "classic" Badlands Vigilante as an All-In exclusive--Sharpshooter torso with Fireman legs done in a powder blue/gray.

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They're *really* not wanting to get sued because even being on the right side of the law would be expensive to defend, but it appears you can build exactly this recipe cobbling parts of various Buckaroo and Boot Hill sets together. The missing piece is the head with mask, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:43 am 
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well it has funded and has the 5 figure pledge level now, and somehow or other im sure the badlands vigilante will be added as a regular figure before its over.
They really need to start hitting those unlocks hot and heavy or things will get ugly at the end.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:30 pm 
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DNL needs to do a full-court press this weekend, especially if HellScreamerz launches their KS on 10/31 -- that's going to dry up available funds right quick.

as a side note, while thinking about doing a Kickstarter, these guys know how to do it right: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/el ... -card-game
1. only two pledge levels
2. fun stretch goals that tie in to the humor and spirit of the KS, as well as built-in social media marketing
3. proven track record, even with serious delivery issues of their prior KS (victim of their own success)
4. they wanted 10k, they GOT their 10k... lol.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:55 pm 
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Now that's how to do a KS.

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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:57 pm 
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I've read quite a few threds on here about these KS type deals. I still feel like the little old lady physically posting pics on her living room wall.

please someone make KS for dummies wiki.

when you pledge $$$ is it binding? if your level isn't hit is it too bad too sad thanks for playing.

also if everything is "unlocked" some of these read like you pledged $$ for a chance to buy the unlocked items???

not much could get me in on a plan like that.


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 Post subject: Re: Dime Novel Legends (of the West) Kickstarter: LIVE
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:42 pm 

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I've read quite a few threads on here about these KS type deals. I still feel like the little old lady physically posting pics on her living room wall.


Haha I love that commercial. I quote the other old lady all the time.

That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!
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Its true though Kickstarter is not always intuitive and when the campaign is setup in a confusing way with weird funding rules that just makes it worse and lowers the confidence level rewards will be delivered.

So Kickstarter basics.

when you pledge $$$ is it binding? For Kickstarter your pledge is only binding IF the campaign hits its target goal by at the end of the campaign.
You can change and modify the Reward level (the radio button item) anytime before the deadline, including not pledging anymore.
You can also change the amount of money you wish to contribute at any time before the deadline.
This is important because if you choose level 1 figure for $25 but want 10 of that figure or a combo of that figure and a couple other figures the idea is to select one of the levels and then grab a calculator and manually figure out how much money you wish to add to pledge for the rest of the figures you want.
So in the scenario above your level would be 1 figure for $25 and you would pledge $250 + shipping.

If the campaign is successful at the end of the campaign you will get a survey shortly afterwards that you can specify exactly what you want the $250 to go to and add more money to get more rewards.

also if everything is "unlocked" some of these read like you pledged $$ for a chance to buy the unlocked items???
The idea for unlocks is different between campaigns
One way is that for each unlock the people pledging at certain levels will get the unlocked reward
The other more common way for action figure kickstarters is when the campaign hits a certain level of funding they can offer additional rewards for purchase that they would have been unable to do at a lower level of funding.


Does that help? A Kickstarter guide isn't a bad idea. I'll try working one up.


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