Since they are in the same universe now I have come to the conclusion that without vehicles MASK and VENOM are more dangerous than the majority of GIJoe or Cobra people involved in the over all conflict.


This page has a list of the Mask abilities if you are not familiar with them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M. ... characters

Most of their abilities grant them amazing combat abilities, ether through surprise, extreme attributes, raw damage or all the above.

I can see Matt Trakker with the Ultra Flash MASK being the stuff of extreme nightmares for all Night Vipers and Jungle Vipers. Then theirs Matts Laser Tron helmet which I can only guess burns whole right through people, tanks, walls so on.

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I can't see where MASK is more DANGEROUS than GI Joe .......... GI Joe and COBRA KILL people..............MASK never shows any harm coming to anyone......plus GI Joe has NUKES............

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Well M.A.S.K. is part of G.I.Joe while V.E.N.O.M is part of Cobra.

When I made these comments I was talking about individual M.A.S.K. personnel vs Individual Cobra personal and the same goes for the two other groups. Mind you I said more dangerous than most. If their is any character without a vehicle that carries around nukes that is a cobra or joe then I guess they would count as more dangerous.

One of the reasons the masks used by MASK and Venom are so dangerous as apposed to using a rifle or any firearm, is the fact that they don't need to use their hands nor move their arms to use their abilities. This mainly applies to the Masked people that are using projectiles instead of some enhancement.

Their weapons are always facing the direction they are facing and will have a higher reaction speed to attack compared to a combatant that has a holstered weapon. Surprise and unfamiliarity in itself is a very deadly weapon.

Take Sly "Wrecker" Rax for example. He fires energy daggers on command out of hit shoulders. Now unfortunately he will have the advantage over most people Cobra sends him out to attack, including unfortunately, the cooler looking steel brigade troops. Unless you have fought or seen Wrecker in action you don't know he is walking around to what in essence is a high capacity energy automatic twin blastic knife on his shoulders.

See a lot of their abilities are highly dangerous because they are not standard, and they way they would be used is unconventionally. Fight smart and unconventionally/unfairly is what wins wars.

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I just wish we'd see more of MASK in G.I. Joe. So far we've gotten Matt Trakker, and there's a vague notion in some circles that the General Mayhem figure from the Iron Grenadiers Convention Set several years ago might be related to Miles Mayhem.

Certainly Matt Trakker's file card made a correlation between both G.I. Joe and MASK, as well as Cobra and VENOM. I don't know that Hasbro will do much with it these days, but I'd love to see the Club do something, perhaps as part of the FSS line.

Who thinks a MASK-based Convention Set would do well?

I would like to say it would do well. But I just was reading some fans comments on a different joe sight and they don't sound happy about the crossover nor the Matt Trakker figure that came out.

I for one would love to have a Joe sized Rhino. It has to be in the top high tier of most powerful ground vehicles in the the Joe/Trans/Mask universe. The only vehicles off hand that I know are more powerful than the Rhino are the Rolling Thunder and the Hammer Head. Any other vehicle is ether close to equal or not as powerful.

Hell I want a Joe sized version of all the Mask character and vehicles. I would love to esp have a Ultra Flash and Laser Tron Matt Trakker.

I got a question. In the ranking system for Cobra where would General Mayhem stand? When I say ranking system its obvious hes a General, what I mean is how many Cobra would have to die before he was the leader of both Cobra and Venom?

Would you count him as a Blue Crimson Guard based on his uniform?

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If the club comics are any indication, Miles Mayhem seems to be a bit more in line with M.A.R.S./Iron Grenadiers, since they do show Miles Mayhem shaking hands with General Mayhem.

If Matt Trakker's file card indicates that Matt Trakker developing vehicles for MASK, it can be assumed that Miles Mayhem is doing the same for Cobra, that he would be working with M.A.R.S. if not exclusively.

As for the ranks, the club profile for Matt Trakker shows him being Specialist 4, making one of the lowest ranking Joes out there. I would have assumed that Matt Trakker would have been at least an officer, but I guess leading your own anti-terrorist organization doesn't get you as far as it used to.
That said, it's tough to say what rank Miles Mayhem would be. But since he's shown meeting with General Mayhem, I'd say he's at least decently placed on the food chain.

I think your thinking of his brother Maximus Mayham. After rereading the MASK origin I have to say that VENOM/Cobra got the vehicle and mask tech from Matt Trekker and his brother Miles Mayham killed. If Venom has dealings with M.A.R.S. its probably just for rearming their vehicles because going back too any cobra base other than their own might take longer to get it done.

I am thinking based on his rank and job Mayham could be the leader of cobra if the Commander and the Baroness died. I feel anyone beneath these two excluding Mayham doesnt have the rank or skill to control all of Cobra.

During the Civil War which side do you think Venom took?

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I'd dig some accurate versions.

Well, in the Big Lob comic strip the club had going on, they specifically show Miles Mayhem meeting with General Mayhem(The Club Exclusive Iron Grenadier). So the only time Miles Mayhem does officially appear in a G.I.Joe story, it's meeting with one of Destro's guys.
It appears to be a MARS meeting, so it's tough to say.

Here is the comic in question:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HpBHcIB1XhE/U ... gazine.JPG

As far as I'm aware, in both U.S. and UK MASK comics, Miles Mayhem has never been referred to by a formal rank. I think there were a few letters in the UK comics asking about his uniform, but I don't think we ever got a statisfactory answer.

According to a friend of mine, a connection has at least been made between MASK and Transformers. In the current season Beast Hunters, they provided the vehicle that Optimus Prime scanned in order to get his current vehicle mode.
Agent Fowler, the government agent assigned to aid the Autobots says it was designed by "the finest engineers at our MASK division."

Here's the clip of the scene in question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhfkIyepXiw

Now if we could get a bit more G.I. Joe participation, we'd have one big happy Hasbro-verse.

I have to apologize. This whole time I thought Mile Mayhem was the guy you'll were talking about, I didn't now their was a Iron Grenadier named General Mayhem.

Anyway what side during the Cobra Civil War do you think Venom would have taken?

I also still feel that Miles Mayhem is a Crimson Guard based on his background and based on the training that a Crimson Guard gets when they are official. He was a scientist, which some Crimson Guards become if they are not Lawyers or Doctors. Their job when not at any Cobra hqs is to infiltrate other organizations and do what ever is in the best interest for Cobra. Miles Mayhem infiltrated the Trakker science group, killed Matts brother and stole a lot of the masks and probable the engineering techniques figured to make vehicles that are disguised as normal vehicles.

Since it does say VENOM is part of COBRA they are obviously a sub group like Python Patrol. VENOMS vehicles are more than likely the only vehicles Cobra makes on their own based on Matt Trakkers bio. So based on my theory that VENOM goes to Destro for rearming and maybe repairs they have another reason to go to Destro for these purposes. Destro might do these things for VENOM for free as long as they can analyze the vehicles themselves to find the screts to making good transformable vehicles. That and or they also do oddjobs for payment too Destro.

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Yeah I was woundering how MASK would do dealings with Transformers.

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What's the link to the blog homepage? Are there more of these Big Lob comics?!?

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I know it kind of takes the coolest parts out but I use the MASK and VENOM characters as mechanics, engineers and drivers. MASK is a PMC (one of the few the Joe team uses) the GI Joe sends their vehicles to for modifications. The masks that these characters use are interface devices like a fighter pilots wear Matt Trakker and his men have worked alongside Joes from time to time. VENOM is one of themany terrorist organizations in the world. They most often sell their engineering and combat driving talents to the highest bidder. Many VENOM agents have been seen with other agencies like the Dreadnoks, the Red Shadows and The Night Creepers. Miles Meyhem is a member of my COBRA council, an organization bent on destabilizing worlds civilization. VENOM designed and built the first of the ARBCO moving trucks that secretly hide troop transport and weapons capability.

Steve

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I was just looking over some MASK episodes, its been YEARS since I have seen them. I will say this compared to what I watch now it is simple yet still entertaining, it also has international details in it I didn't catch as a kid, and the score is very well made, if they made a cd of the score I would buy it.

Anyway in the episode Death From the Sky, VENOM is going to destroy a city using a tracktor beam and part of a comet. TWO things caught my eye in this episode. One they use equipment and vehicles that may not have anything to do with the MASK tech and vehicle tech. VENOM is using a small carrier sized submarine that very well could have been made by M.A.R.S.

The seconded thing is that V.E.N.O.M. has an army of minions, I never noticed them before an I don't think they have a name at all. Click on the 6 min 46 sec mark.




Since they don't have a name I will give them one. They are the VENOM VIPERS They are nearly identical to your average Viper but with a Poisonous attitude. When people enter a room they ether brighten it or make it gloomy, VENOM VIPERS do nether, they fill the room with a since of contagious dread because their masks fire Venom filled poison bullets. Each of these bullets is individually chosen to be filled with a different snake venom, out of 15 bullets fired none will have the same snake venom. These Vipers are the prefect group of individuals to spread Mayhem around the world. To be a VENOM VIPER each individual must have electric and mechanic technical training, two years serves as a Track Viper and Motor Viper, and have a built up immunity to the venoms they use. Needless to say the drop out rate for the last requirement is very high.

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